November 16, 200817 yr First of all, I've never heard of a death threat towards President Bush. Secondly, Obama probably expects these types of things, but his supporters should not have to. And the things that were said about Sarah Palin do not compare to the things listed at the beginning of this thread. Not even close! Then you haven't been listening for 8 years.
November 16, 200817 yr Can I assume that all of you who are so shocked were equally shocked by the attacks on Sarah Palin merely because she had the audacity to be a strong woman with strong Judeo-Christian beliefs? We have plenty of racism, sexism, anti-Christian beliefs, etc. That is not going to change. All who enter the political arena, including Obama, must accept what we call "assumption of the risk". Than is reality. And, in fact, he has a long way to go before he is abused and threatened remotely as much as has been directed at Bush. In a "diversified" society, it goes with the territory. Are you denouncing the racism or is it perfectly okay with you?
November 16, 200817 yr Author Not sure why you're rolling your eyes at the underlined part. First of all, I've never heard of a death threat towards President Bush. Secondly, Obama probably expects these types of things, but his supporters should not have to. And the things that were said about Sarah Palin do not compare to the things listed at the beginning of this thread. Not even close! Did you forget the T-shirts? They were every bit as disparaging. Also, don’t forget people hung a likeness of her from a tree as well.
November 16, 200817 yr Author My 10-year-old nephew found a button (like a political pin) at the game last night. It had a racist word (yes, that one) on it, and some other writing. His grandpa asked him what he did with it. He said he destroyed it. We tried not to make a big deal out of the incident, but were happy to see he did the right thing.Easy to see he's being brought up right and has very good influences in his life. :thumb:
November 16, 200817 yr Not sure why you're rolling your eyes at the underlined part. Did you forget the T-shirts? They were every bit as disparaging. Also, don’t forget people hung a likeness of her from a tree as well. I'm rolling my eyes because I heard nobody on here feeling sorry for Hillary, when she has faced 100 times the sexism Palin has. The sexism Palin faced will never even be close to the racial barriers that Obama has dealt with and hurdled on a daily basis.
November 16, 200817 yr I'm rolling my eyes because I heard nobody on here feeling sorry for Hillary, when she has faced 100 times the sexism Palin has. The sexism Palin faced will never even be close to the racial barriers that Obama has dealt with and hurdled on a daily basis.
November 16, 200817 yr Author I'm rolling my eyes because I heard nobody on here feeling sorry for Hillary, when she has faced 100 times the sexism Palin has. The sexism Palin faced will never even be close to the racial barriers that Obama has dealt with and hurdled on a daily basis.I'm not sure where you're getting the 100 times amount. I recall saying something about how the media and Obama was treating Hillary. As far as Obama vs Palin, I don't know what happened in either ones life while growing up for me to compare the two, but I would tend to agree Obama likely heard a lot worse.
November 16, 200817 yr Are you denouncing the racism or is it perfectly okay with you? I am saying it is a reality of life just is are all forms of prejudice. Racial prejudice is no better and no worse than any other kind. But, if you think we will ever have a prejudice-free world, you are only fooling yourself. Unfortunately, some forms of prejudice (anti-Christian, for example) are completely overlooked in our society (political correctness) while others are treated, shall we say, more severely. If we are to denounce racism, we need to do it from both directions since such acts are not peculiar to one racial group. Edited November 16, 200817 yr by scooterbob
November 16, 200817 yr RTS will vouch for the fact that I VERY MUCH denounced the stupidity of t-shirts and effigies of Palin. 100% those people are every bit as wrong and stupid as those people that RTS mentioned in his original posts. As for Hillary, due to her being in the public spotlight for a longer period of time, she has likely experienced more of that type of stupidity than Palin.
November 16, 200817 yr I am saying it is a reality of life just is are all forms of prejudice. Racial prejudice is no better and no worse than any other kind. But, if you think we will ever have a prejudice-free world, you are only fooling yourself. Unfortunately, some forms of prejudice (anti-Christian, for example) are completely overlooked in our society (political correctness) while others are treated, shall we say, more severely. If we are to denounce racism, we need to do it from both directions since such acts are not peculiar to one racial group. You never answered the question. As for the bolded statement, exchange the word "prejudice" for "murder" or "adultery" (or even "abortion" for some) and the same still applies. However, plenty of people denounce those actions.
November 16, 200817 yr RTS will vouch for the fact that I VERY MUCH denounced the stupidity of t-shirts and effigies of Palin. 100% those people are every bit as wrong and stupid as those people that RTS mentioned in his original posts. As for Hillary, due to her being in the public spotlight for a longer period of time, she has likely experienced more of that type of stupidity than Palin. Hillary was able to get elected to the US Senate with no more experience and qualification than being First Lady for eight years. She made the decision to cling to her husband's coattails to advance her career. She does not seem to have suffered much from sexism. In contrast, Gov. Palin worked her way up through the ranks from PTA president to city council to mayor to governor and she won elections on her own merits. Hillary has been on the planet longer than Palin but that does not mean she has been subject to less sexism than the wife of a state Attorney General, Arkansas Governor, and two-term US president has. The media's treatment of Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with sexism, IMO, and everything to do with racism. The media decided that it was time to elect an African-American and Hillary just happened to be Obama's main opponent.
November 16, 200817 yr Author RTS will vouch for the fact that I VERY MUCH denounced the stupidity of t-shirts and effigies of Palin. 100% those people are every bit as wrong and stupid as those people that RTS mentioned in his original posts.Yes I can indeed vouch for you on that and I'm 100% in agreement with you. :thumb:
November 16, 200817 yr I don't know how many people have been following the developments in the case of a teenage Native American boy who was beaten in Meade Co. last year by members of a local hate group based in Dawson Springs. But, here's an article from today's newspaper with some interesting comments: Reached on his cell phone yesterday afternoon, Hensley, 26, verified Gruver's comment. "I didn't do anything wrong," said Hensley, who lives in Cheviot, a suburban town on the west side of Cincinnati. "I'm an equal opportunity hater." Relative to the questions of sexism, I doubt many who are paying attention are unaware. Just on BGP, read the comments about Pelosi and Clinton's looks. At one point, not a mention of Pelosi's positions or comments would be made without a reference to here apparent unattractiveness. Then, there was a thread to talk about attractive Republican women. I'm sure many of you will eschew this. But, it is sexism.
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