And what optional, not particularly well thought out, hasty governmental (foreign) policy action was pursued that has caused such high murder rates that I should be concerned with correcting?

That's right, sweep it under the carpet.

Humor wouldn't be yours.

 

Not joking.

Not joking.

Me either. Try being clear on what you're trying to say.

That's right, sweep it under the carpet.

 

Not even close. If you can't discuss facts it's better to attack the messenger.

Not even close. If you can't discuss facts it's better to attack the messenger.

:lol: I stated a fact, I can't help it if it's not one to your liking.

Does it really matter? I mean American citizens are dying at alarmingly high rates in cities such as Chicago. Many of which are innocent victims. Whether they're military deaths in Iraq, or an innocent women in Harlem, aren't they of the same value?

Exactly my point and the later gets ignored on a daily basis. :thumb:

:lol: I stated a fact, I can't help it if it's not one to your liking.

 

You're arguing that my criticism of the invasion of Iraq is invalid because I don't post threads lamenting the death rates in inner-cities, as if I'm not concerned about death anywhere. That's foolish. Iraq is/was/will forever be a poor policy decision and defending it by claiming that not many (Americans) have died resulting from it and that those who find it to be a poor policy decision don't care about all lives elsewhere is the height of idiocy. But, by all means, continue with the ridiculous over-generalizations and convenient labeling in lieu of a substantive argument.

Come on, Habib, that's a simple answer. Letting guys like Obama run cities, you know, those goofy far left liberals that do their best to tie the hands of officials and punish everyone and everything but the criminals.

Seriously, it's a valid point. You guys like to complain about the number of deaths from the war, yet you ignore the constant daily violence in our own country.

How is that a valid point on this topic? One is much more easily corrected with a clear source. One isn't and has a plethora of sources. The two have nothing to do with each other and killings in the US have nothing to do with Habibs point.

You're arguing that my criticism of the invasion of Iraq is invalid because I don't post threads lamenting the death rates in inner-cities, as if I'm not concerned about death anywhere. That's foolish. Iraq is/was/will forever be a poor policy decision and defending it by claiming that not many (Americans) have died resulting from it and that those who find it to be a poor policy decision don't care about all lives elsewhere is the height of idiocy. But, by all means, continue with the ridiculous over-generalizations and convenient labeling in lieu of a substantive argument.

Because I'm tired of you guys ignoring the fact that we went in on what was bad Intel. A mistake, yes, but we were already there so now we have to clean it up. Both sides agreed to go and voted to do so. So by all means, continue with the ridiculous over-generalizations and convenient labeling in lieu of a substantive argument.

 

And I am amazed that the number of innocent people murdered in this country are ignored by so many on this board because they can't attach Bush's name to it.

How is that a valid point on this topic? One is much more easily corrected with a clear source. One isn't and has a plethora of sources. The two have nothing to do with each other and killings in the US have nothing to do with Habibs point.

They have everything to do with each other, you just choose to ignore the violence in your own backyard. As UKMustangFan said, whether they're military deaths in Iraq, or an innocent women in Harlem, aren't they of the same value?

Honest question RTS, when was the last time you started a thread about the murder rate or deaths in the US? To accuse me of ignoring something because I don't post threads about it on BGP is ludicrous.

They have everything to do with each other, you just choose to ignore the violence in your own backyard. As UKMustangFan said, whether they're military deaths in Iraq, or an innocent women in Harlem, aren't they of the same value?

 

Then why don't you fight for ending the violence in Iraq and ending the violence in Harlem with the same passion you fight to ban abortion with?

Honest question RTS, when was the last time you started a thread about the murder rate or deaths in the US?

Been a while, but then when was the last time you heard me complain about the number of deaths in Iraq?

Been a while, but then when was the last time you heard me complain about the number of deaths in Iraq?

Then by your logic you're ignoring both.

Then why don't you fight for ending the violence in Iraq and ending the violence in Harlem with the same passion you fight to ban abortion with?

I'm doing just that by voting for McCain. :thumb: