October 19, 200817 yr Where did I say he wasn't a Republican? My point was I would assume that Powell would endorse McCain, as both are republicans. You pointed out that two of his stances did not hold up to the traditional neo-con philosophy. The majority of them still do...so it still seems logical to have expected him to side with McCain.
October 20, 200817 yr Sounds like the daily right-wing talking points to me. By all accounts, Powell was the coolest among the Bush administration hierarchy about going to war in Iraq ... so why would he take offense to McCain's criticism of it? Also, Powell's explanation of why he chose to endorse Obama is entirely plausible ... I didn't see any acrimony toward McCain in his discussion of his decision. Sounds like a typical left wing response to me. I view Gen. Powell as a moderate who shares most of John McCain's political positions. Nothing will convince me that he actually believes that McCain would not make a better CIC than Barack Obama. I do believe that Powell sees more of a role for himself than in a McCain administration, in which at best he would be playing second fiddle to Gen. Petraeus. Powell may simply see an opportunity to provide some much needed foreign affairs and military expertise to Obama's administration. If Powell believes that he can help himself and the country by supporting the likely future president, then I am not going to condemn him for his decision. If that sounds like a right wing talking point to you, then that is your problem not mine.
October 20, 200817 yr Much like Christopher Buckley - don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out. No room for you in the "party of inclusion" any more.I see the two situations totally unrelated. Buckley's explanation for endorsing Obama made absolutely no sense. Buckley worked as a conservative (not simply a Republican) columnist and his decision made his position at the National Review untenable. I think that I speak for most conservatives in saying that if Obama must be POTUS, then I would welcome his selection of Gen. Powell as either the Sec. of Defense of the Sec. of State. There are far more liberal and far less competent people (Gen. Clark comes to mind) who Obama could appoint to his cabinet. I can see the rationale for Powell's decision but Buckley's decision coupled with his insistence that he is still a small-government conservative was nothing short of bizarre.
October 20, 200817 yr If Senator Obama does become POTUS, which it is looking like will happen, his appointment of Powell as either SOS or SOD would be a choice I would fully support. Powell is a man that I hold in very high regard, although I don't believe his endorsement of Obama is something that anyone should take as more than one man's opinion.
October 20, 200817 yr If Senator Obama does become POTUS, which it is looking like will happen, his appointment of Powell as either SOS or SOD would be a choice I would fully support. Powell is a man that I hold in very high regard, although I don't believe his endorsement of Obama is something that anyone should take as more than one man's opinion. Assuming Powell will get a cabinet appointment, it will definitely be interesting. I've heard that Bill Richardson might be the front runner for State and also heard rumblings that he might keep Gates intact.
October 20, 200817 yr Sounds like a typical left wing response to me. Actually, it's a pretty moderate response ... Powell and I are on the same page most of the time. I view Gen. Powell as a moderate who shares most of John McCain's political positions. Nothing will convince me that he actually believes that McCain would not make a better CIC than Barack Obama. I do believe that Powell sees more of a role for himself than in a McCain administration, in which at best he would be playing second fiddle to Gen. Petraeus. Powell may simply see an opportunity to provide some much needed foreign affairs and military expertise to Obama's administration.Are you now implying that Colin Powell is an opportunist? If that sounds like a right wing talking point to you, then that is your problem not mine.Not my problem ... but it is my opinion. A very valid one, too.
October 20, 200817 yr Surely no one is surprised that Powell endorsed Obama? If you are, I have an autograph of George Washington signed with a blue Sharpie that I will sell you. Some things should be obvious. That's good!
October 20, 200817 yr There is no way Powell really views himself as a Republican....No way.I suspect that Powell considers himself to be an old-style moderate Republican ... just the kind of Republican that the neo-conservative wing of the party is alienating and trying to eliminate.
October 20, 200817 yr Actually, it's a pretty moderate response ... Powell and I are on the same page most of the time. Are you now implying that Colin Powell is an opportunist? Not my problem ... but it is my opinion. A very valid one, too. In the unfortunate event that Obama is elected president, then I would love to see Powell named to his cabinet as I have already stated. This could very well be a case where Powell sees Obama as the inevitable winner on Nov. 4 and decided to endorse him before the election to enhance his prospects of a job in the new administration. This is one of those rare occasions where a politician can act in his own selfish interest while possibly doing his country a favor in the process. If Powell's endorsement makes it less likely that the idiot Wesley Clark will play a major foreign policy role in an Obama administration, then he has done all of us a favor. If it makes you feel good to continue to label my position as a right wing talking point, then knock yourself out but supporting your position with some facts would make a more compelling argument, IMO.
October 20, 200817 yr If Senator Obama does become POTUS, which it is looking like will happen, his appointment of Powell as either SOS or SOD would be a choice I would fully support. Powell is a man that I hold in very high regard, although I don't believe his endorsement of Obama is something that anyone should take as more than one man's opinion. Even though he got on tv and talked about these so-called weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that we are told were never found? You hold him in high regard? Did he lie about all that?
October 20, 200817 yr Even though he got on tv and talked about these so-called weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that we are told were never found? You hold him in high regard? Did he lie about all that? Maybe he did, may be he didn't...There were a lot of people on both sides of the aisle that were wrong about that one....Much like I wouldn't form an opinion of President Bush based on that instance, I won't on Powell either.
October 20, 200817 yr Not only is he not allowed to call himself a bona fide Republican, he goes all the way to being "liberal" (do not pass "moderate", do not collect $200). What is wrong with being a "liberal"? Who made the "conservatives" God? Why judge one as being better as the other just because you are one? If I disagree with you does that make me a lesser person? NO!
October 20, 200817 yr Powell endorsing Obama may be the "nail in McCain's coffin". It will probably get some undecided and Independent votes. He didn't speak very highly of Palin which I think was an accurate perception. Good for him. Hopefully, we will see him in Obama's cabinet if he is elected.
October 20, 200817 yr Even though he got on tv and talked about these so-called weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that we are told were never found? You hold him in high regard? Did he lie about all that?Powell has admitted that he now knows that much of the information he presented to the United Nations in the weeks leading up to the invasion of Iraq was false and misleading. He has never said so publicly, as far as I know, but I suspect he realized sometime in 2003-04 that some elements of the Bush administration might have known that. I suspect he also felt that, even with evidence to the contrary, the Bushies didn't mind using his international credibility to further the contention that Saddam Hussein had operating WMD. I think Powell, like the good soldier he was, was supporting his commander in chief at the time, and opted to bow out quietly when he realized what had transpired.
October 20, 200817 yr Powell has admitted that he now knows that much of the information he presented to the United Nations in the weeks leading up to the invasion of Iraq was false and misleading. He has never said so publicly, as far as I know, but I suspect he realized sometime in 2003-04 that some elements of the Bush administration might have known that. I suspect he also felt that, even with evidence to the contrary, the Bushies didn't mind using his international credibility to further the contention that Saddam Hussein had operating WMD. I think Powell, like the good soldier he was, was supporting his commander in chief at the time, and opted to bow out quietly when he realized what had transpired. That's bull.
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