I think the left needs to be very careful how they respond. If they call Palin "shrill", it will backfire big time. Campbell Brown is talking about it on CNN right now. Harry Reid just released a statement and referred to Palin as "shrill and sarcastic" I would not use the word "shrill" at all to describe her delivery.

 

Biden is going to have his hands full in this debate.

I agree with the potential danger in some of the remarks that are of an attacking nature; however, I watched the DNC convention and witnessed much of the same in that one. Also, history has shown that "going negative" can actually be effective in some instances. Who knows.. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

Going negative does deliver, but I would almost reserve that for advertisements (especially of the third party variety) and surrogates. Going negative does backfire, especially when it is blatant, and tonight it was. And tonight featured an audience that, at least most of them, wouldn't be paid to listen to the Rush Limbaugh show.

 

And you were right on the Democratic side. They attacked, to be sure. But, if you remember, every attack was prefaced with "John McCain is a great war hero; he should be respected; John McCain is a good friend of mine; he has served us admirably, but I disagree with his policies and direction." Now, I'm not naive, but this kind of rhetoric dampens the blow, takes off the personal edge, and primes people to think "yeah, I like John McCain but I don't really agree with his stance on that," which is the first of three thoughts they have before they vote for Obama. The Republicans were visceral tonight, mocking even, and it won't play well with voters.

I think the left needs to be very careful how they respond. If they call Palin "shrill", it will backfire big time. Campbell Brown is talking about it on CNN right now. Harry Reid just released a statement and referred to Palin as "shrill and sarcastic" I would not use the word "shrill" at all to describe her delivery.

 

Biden is going to have his hands full in this debate.

Shrill??? :lol:

 

That's great...

 

In response, I would say that Reid is dull, predictable and out-of-touch, but I digress. (As does anyone discussing Reid.)

The Republicans were visceral tonight, mocking even, and it won't play well with voters.

In light of the crap heaped on Palin, her teenage daughter's pregnancy, etc. I think Palin was well within her bounds to cut loose tonight. Now... if she stays in pitbull with lipstick mode, without delivering on substance, I might agree with you, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

Shrill??? :lol:

 

That's great...

 

In response, I would say that Reid is dull, predictable and out-of-touch, but I digress. (As does anyone discussing Reid.)

 

Now come on, Reid did give a ringing endorsement of McCain tonight through Palin's speech.:thumb:

In light of the crap heaped on Palin, her teenage daughter's pregnancy, etc. I think Palin was well within her bounds to cut loose tonight. Now... if she stays in pitbull with lipstick mode, without delivering on substance, I might agree with you, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

 

How many editorial cartoons will have that in it tomorrow.

They attacked, to be sure. But, if you remember, every attack was prefaced with "John McCain is a great war hero; he should be respected; John McCain is a good friend of mine; he has served us admirably, but I disagree with his policies and direction." Now, I'm not naive, but this kind of rhetoric dampens the blow, takes off the personal edge, and primes people to think "yeah, I like John McCain but I don't really agree with his stance on that," which is the first of three thoughts they have before they vote for Obama. The Republicans were visceral tonight, mocking even, and it won't play well with voters.

 

To my ears, prefacing their attacks with a flimsy complement was very condescending to say the least. To some in the listening audience, that tactic might work. But I wonder how many others will see through that approach.

Out of sight, out of mind. Sick of politics and the choices we're given.

 

I think it was The Scribe who said it best...

 

It's like choosing between taking a punch to the stomach, or a punch to the face.

This attack on Palin, I believe, reveals an interesting thing about the Democrat party.

 

They are all for equal opportunities for women, that women get a chance to breaththrough that glass ceiling, that women are treated fair AS LONG AS they have the same beliefs as the Democrat party.

In light of the crap heaped on Palin, her teenage daughter's pregnancy, etc. I think Palin was well within her bounds to cut loose tonight. Now... if she stays in pitbull with lipstick mode, without delivering on substance, I might agree with you, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

 

If I were Palin I would be angry too, though it comes with the territory. But, elections are all about winning votes. It was Rudy that really did the damage, however. He even went over his time limit, cutting off Palin's introductory video, which are always nicely done. I'm willing to bet Rudy went a bit beyond what he was supposed to, in both time and rhetoric.

To my ears, prefacing their attacks with a flimsy complement was very condescending to say the least. To some in the listening audience, that tactic might work. But I wonder how many others will see through that approach.

 

Have you ever watched a campaign commercial? They aren't exactly geared to the intelligent among us...:creepy:

Going negative does deliver, but I would almost reserve that for advertisements (especially of the third party variety) and surrogates. Going negative does backfire, especially when it is blatant, and tonight it was. And tonight featured an audience that, at least most of them, wouldn't be paid to listen to the Rush Limbaugh show.

 

And you were right on the Democratic side. They attacked, to be sure. But, if you remember, every attack was prefaced with "John McCain is a great war hero; he should be respected; John McCain is a good friend of mine; he has served us admirably, but I disagree with his policies and direction." Now, I'm not naive, but this kind of rhetoric dampens the blow, takes off the personal edge, and primes people to think "yeah, I like John McCain but I don't really agree with his stance on that," which is the first of three thoughts they have before they vote for Obama. The Republicans were visceral tonight, mocking even, and it won't play well with voters.

 

That's pretty much the same as always, isn't it?

This attack on Palin, I believe, reveals an interesting thing about the Democrat party.

 

They are all for equal opportunities for women, that women get a chance to breaththrough that glass ceiling, that women are treated fair AS LONG AS they have the same beliefs as the Democrat party.

 

Exactly and that is why it is going to be very tricky how they are able to deal with Palin. They do have to attack/respond to her otherwise she will simply run them over. However they have to attack very carefully in order not to alienate women. It is a pickle, and I am going to enjoy watching loose cannon Biden struggle with it. If Biden comes of condescending, as he usually does, it will backfire drastically.

In response, I would say that Reid is dull, predictable and out-of-touch, but I digress. (As does anyone discussing Reid.)

 

Classic.

Have you ever watched a campaign commercial? They aren't exactly geared to the intelligent among us...:creepy:

 

O, this one is toooooooo easy.

 

Tell us about them Habib, since you understand them so well.:lol::lol: