Aces, no comment on this one?

You must have me confused with a McCain supporter. I plan to vote for McCain by default. I consider him a conservative Democrat who just happens to be running against a socialist. This country will continue its slide to the left under McCain but the slippage will not be as great as it would be under The One. A windfall profits tax is stupid no matter who suggests it or supports it. McCain needs to get fully on board with the program and also drop his opposition to ANWR drilling. The energy issue and the drag high fuel costs is having on the economy is a winning issue for Republicans this fall. Pelosi and Obama are making it possible by digging in to defend their left wing positions.

You're the one that said Obama shifts with the voting wind. I'm simply pointing out that, unfortunately, its politics and its played very well by the one for change and the Maverick.

Actually, The One seems to be coming a bit unhinged at the moment. I believe that his energy (as illustrated below) will be Obama's tank commander moment. The more Obama is forced to speak without a tight script, the more foolish and inexperienced he sounds. He probably made the right decision to run from McCain's debate challenge.

 

Pretty desperate move by Obama. He is getting hammered on his idiotic "energy" policy so he tries to link McCain's more sensible policy t

 

 

Obama should have begun flip-flopping on energy much sooner. Now, when he finally offers something similar to McCain's plan, he will once again look like a foolish follower instead of a leader.

 

 

 

Democrats are on the wrong site of the debate on energy matters and Obama knows it, hence his attempt to discredit McCain's energy policy by naming it after Dick Cheney.

 

 

 

The facts are not on Obama's side, so he is hoping to discredit McCain's more popular energy plan by desperately attempting to associate it with Cheney. Is this liberals' idea of a different kind of politics? :lol:

 

McCain's reversal could have nothing to do with polls showing Americans overwhelmingly in support of offshore drilling could it? .

 

The above is quite an impressive collection. Both have "flip flopped" on the "drilling" issue and yet one of them gets nailed as the flopper. Both are considering windfall taxes but only one got bashed as having no economic sense. You say that McCain probably changed his mind not due to donations but due to the desire of the voters yet have previously bashed Obama for changing his mind to what the voters seek.

 

Consistency is a challenge when you can't see straight due to the opponent.

The above is quite an impressive collection. Both have "flip flopped" on the "drilling" issue and yet one of them gets nailed as the flopper. Both are considering windfall taxes but only one got bashed as having no economic sense. You say that McCain probably changed his mind not due to donations but due to the desire of the voters yet have previously bashed Obama for changing his mind to what the voters seek.

 

Consistency is a challenge when you can't see straight due to the opponent.

:lol: I am not on here night after night promoting McCain as a candidate while maintaining that I am undecided. I have probably been as critical of McCain as anybody who participates regularly in this forum. You see, my problem with McCain is that he does not hold enough conservative positions and I have criticized him heavily for it. I will welcome his change of position on ANWR, which I believe is almost inevitable. Compared with Obama, McCain has been rock steady on major positions (which, granted is not saying much).

 

I vented my frustration over Republicans nominating McCain as their candidate during the primaries. I have no idea whether McCain's changes in positions on major issues are genuine or not. What I do know is that I vehemently disagree with most of Obama's positions so I have nothing to lose in supporting McCain. In the worst case, McCain will still pursue an American capitalist agenda, even if I disagree with him on the details half the time.

 

It amazes me how anybody can be torn between voting for a socialist and a moderate Republican this late in the campaign. Either one believes that the federal government should have the power to confiscate profits that it deems "excessive" or one believes in our capitalist system and economic freedom.

 

Either one believes that the federal government should have the power to confiscate profits that it deems "excessive" or one believes in our capitalist system and economic freedom.

 

 

 

Since both have supported this as an idea, whom should I assume you are talking about?

Since both have supported this as an idea, whom should I assume you are talking about?

The One who is currently proposing armed robbery of the oil companies to buy votes for $1,000 per family and $500 per individual. As I said, regardless of which candidate gets elected, the slide toward socialism will continue for the next four years but I prefer that the ride be as slow as possible. Obama is proposing nothing that will address the long term oil supply issue and McCain is.

 

If you are trying to make the point that there is no difference in McCain's position and Obama's position, then you are failing miserably. If your point is that both candidates' positions have shifted during the campaign, then you are preaching to the choir.

Either one believes that the federal government should have the power to confiscate profits that it deems "excessive" or one believes in our capitalist system and economic freedom.

 

Yeah, our oil oligopoly is a great system and true to the beliefs of any proponent of economic freedom.

Yeah, our oil oligopoly is a great system and true to the beliefs of any proponent of economic freedom.

It may not be perfect but it is better than the Robin Hood system offered by Obama and his band of merry men and women.

I'm still having trouble understanding why you believe that comparing Senator McCain to the Vice-President is mud slinging or attempted character assassination. That seems like a pretty low opinion of the Vice-President.

 

I'm still having trouble understanding why Obama is talking about Cheney's oil policies at all. If Obama thinks Cheney is going to be McCain's VP choice, I could perhaps understand it (then again, if Obama thought that, I'd have to rethink Obama's intelligence level). . What does it matter what Cheney thought or thinks? Frankly, this is just another political ploy to try and link McCain to Bush (which effort by Obama is quite disappointing to me) or tap into the disappointment with the current administration. More campaign stump stupidity. Lord, I wonder about the intelligence of the typical American at times (and a whole lot during campaign season).

Since both have supported this as an idea, whom should I assume you are talking about?

 

Link please to a credible source confirming that McCain has supported such a concept to anywhere close of the degree that Obama has. And I hope you have something more than the CNN snippit that you posted earlier. That is not even in the same state, much less neighborhood, with Obama's apparent way of big oil.

I remember enough thermodynamics from my engineering days to know that Obama's energy plan is nonsense. You cannot reduce demand for electricity by 15 percent in 10 years while simultaneously placing hundreds of thousands of electric vehicles on the streets while the population continues to grow - unless you are willing to wreck the economy in the process.

 

Democrats are on the wrong site of the debate on energy matters and Obama knows it, hence his attempt to discredit McCain's energy policy by naming it after Dick Cheney.

 

I also love how Obama quotes T. Boone Pickens while leaving out the fact that Pickens also believes in drilling offshore and in the ANWR. Yes sirree, Obama sure is a different kind of politician.

 

Throw in that we do not have the capability to transfer wind power electricity over great distances.

 

Obama is in trouble period.

 

His economic plan is not a good one either and top economists have railed against it.

Don't forget, when he tried to morph into an economic expert when the primaries rolled around to Ohio and Pennsylvania...he got trounced.

Yeah, our oil oligopoly is a great system and true to the beliefs of any proponent of economic freedom.

You may not want to believe it, but oil is what makes this great country of ours go round. Peroid.

You may not want to believe it, but oil is what makes this great country of ours go round. Peroid.

 

Well, it does make the wheels of the bus go round and round.

You may not want to believe it, but oil is what makes this great country of ours go round. Peroid.

 

What does this have to do with what I said?

If Cheney is to blame for the price of oil going to $150, does he get credit for bringing it down to $116?