October 17, 200817 yr Author Why would a team want to give a contract to somone who faced a very good chance of going to prison? Bonds could have played this season. I believe his first court date is March 2009. The prison argument has no validity.
October 17, 200817 yr Bonds could have played this season. I believe his first court date is March 2009. The prison argument has no validity. Ok. What team do you feel should have signed Bonds, and put up with the major distraction he would have been?
October 17, 200817 yr Author Griffey Jr. has hit over 600 homeruns. Is he still a force in the lineup? Ken Griffey Jr. was still a presence in the lineup when he was with Cincinnati. He'd get pitched around and intentionally walked on occassion.
October 17, 200817 yr Author Ok. What team do you feel should have signed Bonds, and put up with the major distraction he would have been? I'm not saying that anyone should have signed him. I'm simply saying that the whole prison argument isn't valid.
October 17, 200817 yr Ok. What team do you feel should have signed Bonds, and put up with the major distraction he would have been? The Yankees The big distraction came when Bonds was chasing Aaron. Now that he passed it, I did not think he would be as big of a distraction.
October 17, 200817 yr Ken Griffey Jr. was still a presence in the lineup when he was with Cincinnati. He'd get pitched around and intentionally walked on occassion. Griffey hit 9 or 10 HR's with the Reds this season. He was hardly what I would call a presence.
October 17, 200817 yr Author Griffey hit 9 or 10 HR's with the Reds this season. He was hardly what I would call a presence. Griffey hit .245 with 15 home runs and 61 walks in 102 games with the Reds. And there is a difference between being a presence and being a producer/force in the lineup.
October 17, 200817 yr Bonds might be the biggest drama queen and jerk to come along in some time. I will never defend the drugs he has taken or the way he acts to the media. But, I will defend Bonds in the sense he was a lot better than many DHs or other players that stepped on the field this year yet he did not get a whif of MLB this season. The prison argument is a weak one in my book because it has been documented that he was not appearing in court for months after this season. IF Bonds ever goes to jail (isn't perjury very tough to prove), it is not going to be anytime soon. Bottom line, they have painted Bonds as the face of the steroid era... beyond McGwire, Sosa, or any other cheater. They eliminate him, they eliminate a big stigma that they (MLB and owners) brought upon themselves. Again, hypocrisy at its finest. Because Bonds is that jerk, drama queen, AND steroid guy; I'm fine with it. McGwire, Sosa, and anyone else that had any success, not named Griffey or Maddux is part of the steroid era. I don't believe that leads to MLB owners colluding against you. Being a jerk, drama queen, steroid guy and horrible teammate does...
October 17, 200817 yr Griffey hit .245 with 15 home runs and 61 walks in 102 games with the Reds. And there is a difference between being a presence and being a producer/force in the lineup. That is obviously more than I remembering him hitting this year, and I guess I'm guilty of trying to compare him to the Griffey of old.
October 17, 200817 yr Author That is obviously more than I remembering him hitting this year, and I guess I'm guilty of trying to compare him to the Griffey of old. There's no doubt that Griffey isn't the player that he once was. But, he's still a presence in the lineup. I don't know the actual numbers, but I'd imagine Griffey would hit over .300 if defense didn't put the shift on. With the shift, he's a .220 - .260 hitter. He doesn't have the power that he used to, and he doesn't run like he used to. But, just about every pitcher in baseball is well aware of Griffey being in the lineup, whether it's because they were huge Junior fans as a kid or because they faced him in his prime. That became evident in any hot stretch that Junior had, and when he was chasing 600 (for a few months ). People pitched around him and he drew a few intentional walks. Maybe it was the chase for 600, but I'd like to think he still commands respect from pitchers & managers than the majority of major league hitters.
October 17, 200817 yr I think we should clarify that Griffey is a presence if he is playing for the Reds. Not much of a presence in some other lineups...
October 17, 200817 yr Author I think we should clarify that Griffey is a presence if he is playing for the Reds. Not much of a presence in some other lineups... :thumb: I agree and was thinking that while I was typing. I don't think you'll see anybody in the AL walk him. Also, as a side note on Griffey. The White Sox are expected to decline his option and pay the $4 million buyout, making Junior a free agent; however, word is that Junior may take less money and remain with the White Sox, as he loved his time there. Junior also just had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AqJIa.w5vc5WRpxdy1apTQ6FCLcF?slug=ap-griffey-surgery&prov=ap&type=lgns
October 17, 200817 yr If Jerry Jones owned a baseball team, he'd sign him. If I owned a baseball team, I'd sign him.
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