I realize the intent, but imo too many people take advantage of this, moving their kids around for the best athletic opportunity, with education being the second reason for the decision as to where they attend school after completeing middle school.

 

I wish I had an emoticon choir, so I could say AMEN! from the choir.

I dont see how Mr Eutons comments automatically make his son ineligible. If I were forced to relocate for employment reasons and had a choice of several school systems in which to enroll my children you better believe that I am going to " tour the facilities" first too. If my children excel in science or maybe music I am going to factor into my decision the schools programs/facilities. What parent that gives a hoot about their child wouldnt? Just because this child excels sports and his father made truthful and sensible comments should not make a difference.

 

Good point. When I moved back to KY from out of state, I chose the district where I bought my house based on where I wanted my kids to go to school. Academics and athletics were both considered.

 

I think this goes way back to when several unnamed schools (all over the state) managed to find jobs for the parents of top notch athletes so that the kids could relocate to their area and play ball. However, then, the media never investigated and reported it and these cases were rarely, if ever, published. I think the KHSAA is trying to eliminate any hint of this going on these days.

But what if the recruiting to a better opportunity is in the best interest of the kids???

 

If you are going to throw out the best interest of the kids argument, than you have to consider that recruiting could lead to a kid being in what is the best interest of them.

 

I have no problem with them being ineligible.

 

Schools are for ACADEMIC PURPOSES. That should be the ONLY mandate in choosing a school. At least, publically.

 

Adults have made schools what they are not supposed to be.

 

First of all, recruiting is wrong to do. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. But I also think a family should be able to go do whatever is best for their own life. This is the United States, not Russia.

First of all, recruiting is wrong to do. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. But I also think a family should be able to go do whatever is best for their own life. This is the United States, not Russia.

 

Than why should I not be allowed to recruit for the school that my child attends and end up giving my child the best opportunity possible???

 

I do not agree that recruiting is wrong to do. It is illegal but not necessarily wrong.

Than why should I not be allowed to recruit for the school that my child attends and end up giving my child the best opportunity possible???

 

I do not agree that recruiting is wrong to do. It is illegal but not necessarily wrong.

 

I believe that recruiting at this age could cause a lot of issues. I see a lot of baggage coming with that, and I think there is a fairly good reason why its illegal. Thats my stance.

I realize the intent, but imo too many people take advantage of this, moving their kids around for the best athletic opportunity, with education being the second reason for the decision as to where they attend school after completeing middle school.

 

I agree. I saw this happen this past year. The middle school in our district requires that athletes play in the grade they are in for conference games. There was a 6th grade student who wanted to play for the 8th grade. When he was told he couldn't do that because of league by-laws, his parents moved him within the next few weeks to a Scott County middle school where he played on the 8th grade team as a 6th grader!

 

So, if the KHSAA continues to rule kids ineligible due to transfering in high school, I'll bet that you will start to see kids move in middle school to the feeder of the school they want to play sports for in high school.

I believe that recruiting at this age could cause a lot of issues. I see a lot of baggage coming with that, and I think there is a fairly good reason why its illegal. Thats my stance.

 

Recruiting happens everyday of the summer in the state of KY. It is rampant at the AAU leagues and the like.

I don't know why the KHSAA would reverse their ruling. The appeals process is to present new evidence. The old evidence of moving/losing a job has already been presented. I don't know what new evidence the parties will present.

I hope they are ruled eligible based on the original evidence, but I don't think that's how it works.

Thats fine and dandy if a kid is gifted in those areas not all kids are good in the arts but could be good athletes. Isn't our job to keep these kids in school and get as much education as possible.

Either you misunderstood me, or I'm not following you. I think we actually agree. :lol:

 

My point is the hypocrisy of those “athletics officials” who try to convince us they actually believe that academic pursuits are somehow superior to athletic pursuits when their entire focus is upon athletics.

 

If the KHSAA intends for their rules to "...keep the focus of educators and students on the fact that students attend schools to receive an education first, and participate in athletics second;” maybe our schools should be doing a better job in delivering excellence in math, science, language skills, etc. instead of worrying about where a few kids choose to play ball.

 

If a classroom education truly is of paramount importance, and our schools deliver academic excellence, "academic advantage" should easily trump "athletic advantage".

 

Athletics are about money pure and simple. Schools with successful programs bring in more revenue than schools with weak programs. Strong programs are built upon strong/talented athletes. That's why everyone wants good athletes at their school, and resents good athletes transferring to competing schools.

 

This is less about what is best for the kids, and helping them make the most of their high school experience than it is about adults being selfish. :thumb:

Either you misunderstood me, or I'm not following you. I think we actually agree. :lol:

 

My point is the hypocrisy of those “athletics officials” who try to convince us they actually believe that academic pursuits are somehow superior to athletic pursuits when their entire focus is upon athletics.

 

If the KHSAA intends for their rules to "...keep the focus of educators and students on the fact that students attend schools to receive an education first, and participate in athletics second;” maybe our schools should be doing a better job in delivering excellence in math, science, language skills, etc. instead of worrying about where a few kids choose to play ball.

 

If a classroom education truly is of paramount importance, and our schools deliver academic excellence, "academic advantage" should easily trump "athletic advantage".

 

Athletics are about money pure and simple. Schools with successful programs bring in more revenue than schools with weak programs. Strong programs are built upon strong/talented athletes. That's why everyone wants good athletes at their school, and resents good athletes transferring to competing schools.

 

This is less about what is best for the kids, and helping them make the most of their high school experience than it is about adults being selfish. :thumb:

 

Your assumption is that the parents are putting academic advantage in front of athletic advantage. From my experience, if a good number of parents pushed academics as much as they pushed athletics while their child was growing up, or if they studied as much as they practiced and played in leagues, the academics you are lamenting about would not be an issue.

 

As my former principal would say, you cannot make chicken salad from chicken poop.

I don't think that Coach Hick's comments involved the "R" word. This thread has left the topic and several need to re-read the rules, as they have apparently been forgoten.

 

4. No school-specific (or general) recruiting comments or allegations of KHSAA rules violations by any school, coach, player or booster are allowed. No talking about where any player lives, has lived, or where they are from in a recruiting context. This is not the place to report KHSAA violations. Feel free to contact www.khsaa.org to report such violations, but do not discuss violations here.

Your assumption is that the parents are putting academic advantage in front of athletic advantage. From my experience, if a good number of parents pushed academics as much as they pushed athletics while their child was growing up, or if they studied as much as they practiced and played in leagues, the academics you are lamenting about would not be an issue.

 

As my former principal would say, you cannot make chicken salad from chicken poop.

Yes, and a lot of families canot afford to send their kid(s) as far in school (college) as their athletic abilities may take them. I know many adults with decent careers today, because they were able to get four year degree because of athletics. Some of them are even teachers.

 

We can't consistently focus on the lowest common denominator (chicken poop) without tearing down the achievers (chicken salad.)