May 30, 200818 yr So happy the Spurs are dead, thank god and good riddance. I will happily display my avatar through the NBA Finals, but it's nice I don't have to watch them anymore. Can't wait to watch the Lakers destroy the Celtics.
May 30, 200818 yr I know the guy can dunk with the best of em' but he also has the potential to be a "Bowen type defender"???? So you are saying the guy has the potential to be the dirtiest player in the game? (not really Spurs fans...Well yeah, really.) He locked down the opponents best scorer at the 1-4 in his last two years at UC. He should have been given more of a shot in SA, but they went older over younger and now they have to fix their mess. James is doing well in Turkey, but if the Spurs came calling he'd be back stateside...
May 30, 200818 yr Lakers had a big win. I figured the Spurs would win that game because they had their backs against the walls and would come out and lay it all on the line and they did that, but it caught up to them. The Spurs are in desperate need of getting a more athletic and younger roster.
May 30, 200818 yr I hope all the people who question why I (and others) believe, and have believed for several years now, that Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA watched the last 6 minutes of that game last night. His ability to take over games in crunch time, make big shots and will his team to victory is unmatched in the NBA. That's reason #1 why he's the man in the NBA. Kobe's performance last night was one of those defining games/moments for legendary players, IMO. In the biggest game of the season for his team, he plays the entire second half and completely takes over the last half of the 4th quarter, making huge shot after shot. If he wants to go down as the greatest ever, his window of opportunity just opened. This Laker team has a chance to go on a dominating run and Kobe is the undisputed man...if he can lead them to multiple championships, we could be looking at a real discussion about the best player ever. And, unlike MJ, I don't see Kobe Bryant retiring right in the middle of it, but who knows. Last night was like deja vu for me. When I used to watch the Bulls with Jordan, it didn't matter what happened early in the game, I always had that feeling that they were going to when in the end. I had that same feeling watching LA last night...when they were down 17 in the first half, I had little doubt that they would come back and win that game. I knew they'd make a run and get it close...and then I knew they'd have the advantage down the stretch because they're younger, they were at home, and, oh yeah, they have Kobe.
May 30, 200818 yr I hope all the people who question why I (and others) believe, and have believed for several years now, that Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA watched the last 6 minutes of that game last night. His ability to take over games in crunch time, make big shots and will his team to victory is unmatched in the NBA. That's reason #1 why he's the man in the NBA. Kobe's performance last night was one of those defining games/moments for legendary players, IMO. In the biggest game of the season for his team, he plays the entire second half and completely takes over the last half of the 4th quarter, making huge shot after shot. If he wants to go down as the greatest ever, his window of opportunity just opened. This Laker team has a chance to go on a dominating run and Kobe is the undisputed man...if he can lead them to multiple championships, we could be looking at a real discussion about the best player ever. And, unlike MJ, I don't see Kobe Bryant retiring right in the middle of it, but who knows. Last night was like deja vu for me. When I used to watch the Bulls with Jordan, it didn't matter what happened early in the game, I always had that feeling that they were going to when in the end. I had that same feeling watching LA last night...when they were down 17 in the first half, I had little doubt that they would come back and win that game. I knew they'd make a run and get it close...and then I knew they'd have the advantage down the stretch because they're younger, they were at home, and, oh yeah, they have Kobe. Did you watch Lebron James in game 7 against the Celtics? Kobe Bryant has a much better supporting class. There is no doubt about that. But if the Cavs go get another big time player, like Pau Gasol to help Lebron James, look out. Kobe Bryant's game is more refined, but Lebron James is also an athletic freak.
May 30, 200818 yr Did you watch Lebron James in game 7 against the Celtics? Kobe Bryant has a much better supporting class. There is no doubt about that. But if the Cavs go get another big time player, like Pau Gasol to help Lebron James, look out. Kobe Bryant's game is more refined, but Lebron James is also an athletic freak. Yes, I did watch it. Lebron scored 45 points...he also scored 3 points in the final 5 or 6 minutes, missing virtually every big shot he took down the stretch. Just like he missed a layup in the Wizards series to tie or win a game...just like he missed a shot from 4 feet in game one vs. Boston to tie the game at the end...just like he missed clutch free throws to give his team a chance...just like he...well, should I go on. I won't dispute, that for 3 quarters of a game, you can make a great argument. But, in the 4th quarter, what most people call "winning time" King James pulls a vanishing act that would make Houdini jealous, while Kobe Bryant is front-and-center, making clutch shot after clutch shot and willing his team to victory. That's the difference and it is a BIG difference. If you want a guy who can fill it up and stuff the stat sheet for 36 minutes, then I won't argue with you. You can have Lebron. I'll take the guy who can get it done equally as good during that time, and then steps his game up another 2 notches when it really matters. :thumb:
May 30, 200818 yr Did you watch Lebron James in game 7 against the Celtics? Kobe Bryant has a much better supporting class. There is no doubt about that. But if the Cavs go get another big time player, like Pau Gasol to help Lebron James, look out. Kobe Bryant's game is more refined, but Lebron James is also an athletic freak. Lebron is great (and athletic freak of nature), but he is going to have to be able to shoot the ball better. His shooting percentage overall is fine, but it is all from 5 feet in... which is fine, but to fully separate himself, a consistent jumper must be developed. I am stealing some from Bayless here... There were 44 players to shoot 300 3 pt. attempts on the season. Lebron was #44 as far shooting percentage goes. That is not good at all. In the Celtics series, Lebron put on one of the most horrendous shooting displays ever in a 7 game series for a superstar, that is not even debateable. While he was great in the final game, look at his numbers down the stretch in that game.
May 30, 200818 yr Yes, I did watch it. Lebron scored 45 points...he also scored 3 points in the final 5 or 6 minutes, missing virtually every big shot he took down the stretch. Just like he missed a layup in the Wizards series to tie or win a game...just like he missed a shot from 4 feet in game one vs. Boston to tie the game at the end...just like he missed clutch free throws to give his team a chance...just like he...well, should I go on. I won't dispute, that for 3 quarters of a game, you can make a great argument. But, in the 4th quarter, what most people call "winning time" King James pulls a vanishing act that would make Houdini jealous, while Kobe Bryant is front-and-center, making clutch shot after clutch shot and willing his team to victory. That's the difference and it is a BIG difference. If you want a guy who can fill it up and stuff the stat sheet for 36 minutes, then I won't argue with you. You can have Lebron. I'll take the guy who can get it done equally as good during that time, and then steps his game up another 2 notches when it really matters. :thumb: Lebron James has already hit several game-winning shots. A matter of fact in the Celtics game 7 I do not remember anyone scoring in the last 7 minutes of the game besides Lebron James and a 3 by Pavlovic. He had very very little help. Delonte West was the only other Cav that scored in double figures in a game 7. Kobe Bryant the past couple years has atleast had Lamar Odom who is a whole lot better than anyone on the Cavs and could not get out of the 1st round of the playoffs. Give Lebron James help and people he can get the ball to and score more often then he is going to be incredible.
May 30, 200818 yr Lebron James has already hit several game-winning shots. A matter of fact in the Celtics game 7 I do not remember anyone scoring in the last 7 minutes of the game besides Lebron James and a 3 by Pavlovic. He had very very little help. Delonte West was the only other Cav that scored in double figures in a game 7. Kobe Bryant the past couple years has atleast had Lamar Odom who is a whole lot better than anyone on the Cavs and could not get out of the 1st round of the playoffs. Give Lebron James help and people he can get the ball to and score more often then he is going to be incredible. Lebron is already incredible. He's a great player and the second best player in the league. But, the help argument doesn't fly here because all I'm talking about is end game performance. Lebron is like Kobe in that he can get his shot any time he wants. So, at the end of games, the ball is in the hands of a guy who can get his shot. The help doesn't matter. Kobe consistently delivers in those situations and Lebron consistenly doesn't. I can't remember how many times I've seen Lebron miss big shots at the ends of games...and many times they are layups or shots in the 4 to 5 foot range (not even jumpers)... I'm not arguing that Lebron hasn't made some big shots. He's taken plenty of them so he's going to make a few. Nor, will I say that Kobe never misses in those situations, he does. But, consistently, Kobe delivers and Lebron doesn't when the game is on the line. That, more than anything else, separates Kobe Bryant from Lebron James and everyone else in the NBA. But, bugatti makes a great point as well...Lebron needs to improve his shooting. Kobe Bryant is far and away the most skilled offensive player in the league...he can score consistently from anywhere on the court.
May 30, 200818 yr Lebron is already incredible. He's a great player and the second best player in the league. But, the help argument doesn't fly here because all I'm talking about is end game performance. Lebron is like Kobe in that he can get his shot any time he wants. So, at the end of games, the ball is in the hands of a guy who can get his shot. The help doesn't matter. Kobe consistently delivers in those situations and Lebron consistenly doesn't. I can't remember how many times I've seen Lebron miss big shots at the ends of games...and many times they are layups or shots in the 4 to 5 foot range (not even jumpers)... I'm not arguing that Lebron hasn't made some big shots. He's taken plenty of them so he's going to make a few. Nor, will I say that Kobe never misses in those situations, he does. But, consistently, Kobe delivers and Lebron doesn't when the game is on the line. That, more than anything else, separates Kobe Bryant from Lebron James and everyone else in the NBA. But, bugatti makes a great point as well...Lebron needs to improve his shooting. Kobe Bryant is far and away the most skilled offensive player in the league...he can score consistently from anywhere on the court. Let me try to explain this to you. Kobe Bryant has much better players around him. Defenses can't help as much on Kobe Bryant because the other players will kill you. Even on those shots from 4-5 feet out, they are contested and are very tough shots. He typically has to take really tough shots to try to win games. Lets not forget all the big plays he made last year in the playoffs against the Pistons. He beat them single-handedly basically. He led a very weak team to the NBA finals last year.
May 30, 200818 yr Lebron is already incredible. He's a great player and the second best player in the league. But, the help argument doesn't fly here because all I'm talking about is end game performance. Lebron is like Kobe in that he can get his shot any time he wants. So, at the end of games, the ball is in the hands of a guy who can get his shot. The help doesn't matter. Kobe consistently delivers in those situations and Lebron consistenly doesn't. I can't remember how many times I've seen Lebron miss big shots at the ends of games...and many times they are layups or shots in the 4 to 5 foot range (not even jumpers)... I'm not arguing that Lebron hasn't made some big shots. He's taken plenty of them so he's going to make a few. Nor, will I say that Kobe never misses in those situations, he does. But, consistently, Kobe delivers and Lebron doesn't when the game is on the line. That, more than anything else, separates Kobe Bryant from Lebron James and everyone else in the NBA. But, bugatti makes a great point as well...Lebron needs to improve his shooting. Kobe Bryant is far and away the most skilled offensive player in the league...he can score consistently from anywhere on the court. I'm not going to pick sides here they are both fantastic, but for the 3 years after Shaq until this year where were all of those heroic taking over games at the end and sealing a series moments? Kobe has a better jump shot right now as well as that incredible fade away. Lebron will develop that. Right now as like Kobe the last 3 years Lebron has to play like a mad man for 3 quarters to keep his team in the game. Kobe can be patient b/c his supporting cast can keep them in the game. That's a huge benefit.
May 30, 200818 yr I'm not going to pick sides here they are both fantastic, but for the 3 years after Shaq until this year where were all of those heroic taking over games at the end and sealing a series moments? Kobe has a better jump shot right now as well as that incredible fade away. Lebron will develop that. Right now as like Kobe the last 3 years Lebron has to play like a mad man for 3 quarters to keep his team in the game. Kobe can be patient b/c his supporting cast can keep them in the game. That's a huge benefit. Excellent point!:thumb:
May 30, 200818 yr I do not subscribe to the logic either than Lebron's "supporting cast" is a bad as people make it out to be. You would think it is Lebron and 4 guys off the street. Is it great? No. But good enough for the Eastern conference.
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