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Rank the sweet 16

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Not necessarily on who will be in the finals, but if it were seeded, how would they be ranked? I'd have something like this:

 

1. Mason Co (30-4)

2. Lexcath (30-3)

3. Holmes (31-2)

4. Univesity Heights ( 30-4)

5. Jeffersontown (26-5)

6. Paintsville (29-3)

7. Hazard (30-4)

8. Paducah Tiglhman (27-6)

9. Greenwood (24-10)

10. Owensboro (22-9)

11. Central (15-11)

12. Lincoln Co (27-5)

13. Elliot Co (26-3)

14. South Laurel (27-7)

15. Bardstown (23-7)

16. Shelby County ( 23-8)

 

1. Lex Cath

2. Mason County

3. UHA

4. Holmes

5. Paintsville

6. Jtown

7. Elliott County

8. Central

9. Paducah Tiglham

10. Hazard

11. Owensboro

12. Bardstown

13. Shelby County

14. Lincoln County

15. South Laurel

16. Greenwood

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You can probably throw Boone in there too...

 

I originally had Boone in there. :D

 

But wasn't too sure they'd beat Elliot by 10+ so I just left them off the list.

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All that and they still do not get my vote for 1 or 2.

Unless they win the Sweet 16.

And yes, I do believe they have a decent chance at winning it all. Just have not earned the #1 spot to this point.

 

I never said they were #1 or #2. If you look at my rankings I have ranked at #3. I'm just saying, anyone who has them #1 or #2 has a legitimate reason to believe they are one of the 2 best teams in the state.

 

No team has dominated the 9th region this year the way Holmes did in a very long time. To beat Covcath 3 times in one season and average a 20 point win against 9th region competition all while doing it starting two sophomores, speaks volumes to how good Holmes really is.

I never said they were #1 or #2. If you look at my rankings I have ranked at #3. I'm just saying, anyone who has them #1 or #2 has a legitimate reason to believe they are one of the 2 best teams in the state.

 

No team has dominated the 9th region this year the way Holmes did in a very long time. To beat Covcath 3 times in one season and average a 20 point win against 9th region competition all while doing it starting two sophomores, speaks volumes to how good Holmes really is.

 

I know you didn't, but you defended someone who did............You gave your reasons, and I gave mine.

 

They beat Cov. Cath. 3 times this year..... ?

 

Mason Co and Lex Cath. has beaten more than a few teams better then Cov Cath.

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I know you didn't, but you defended someone who did............You gave your reasons, and I gave mine.

 

They beat Cov. Cath. 3 times this year..... ?

 

Mason Co and Lex Cath. has beaten more than a few teams better then Cov Cath.

 

Lexcath also lost to that Covcath team though.

 

If Holmes somehow does make it to the finals though, don't say it was luck. I personally see them being knocked out in the semi's but anyone who thinks they can win state, I won't argue it. Holmes is a VERY GOOD team.

 

So unless you've seen them play, I wouldn't base where they should be ranked or how good they are simply on their schedule.

Lexcath also lost to that Covcath team though.

 

If Holmes somehow does make it to the finals though, don't say it was luck. I personally see them being knocked out in the semi's but anyone who thinks they can win state, I won't argue it. Holmes is a VERY GOOD team.

 

So unless you've seen them play, I wouldn't base where they should be ranked or how good they are simply on their schedule.

 

I've stated in another post that Holmes has a good chance to get the Sweet 16 crown.

I just would not rank them #1.

I never said they were #1 or #2. If you look at my rankings I have ranked at #3. I'm just saying, anyone who has them #1 or #2 has a legitimate reason to believe they are one of the 2 best teams in the state.

 

No team has dominated the 9th region this year the way Holmes did in a very long time. To beat CovCath 3 times in one season and average a 20 point win against 9th region competition all while doing it starting two sophomores, speaks volumes to how good Holmes really is.

 

Just curious, but what's a long time ago in your opinion?

 

In the 2003/2004 season CovCath went 16-0 in the Ninth! CovCath that year played a much tougher schedule than what Holmes has played this season, and were 29-3 going into the Sweet Sixteen with losses to Scott County, Cin St. X and Bishop Brossart. CovCath lost to eventual Sweet Sixteen Champion Warren Central in the final four, in Warren Central closest game of the Sweet Sixteen!

 

I am taking nothing away from this year's Holmes team, but your statement is not really accurate, unless you consider four years ago, a long time!

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Just curious, but what's a long time ago in your opinion?

 

In the 2003/2004 season CovCath went 16-0 in the Ninth! CovCath that year played a much tougher schedule than what Holmes has played this season, and were 29-3 going into the Sweet Sixteen with losses to Scott County, Cin St. X and Bishop Brossart. CovCath lost to eventual Sweet Sixteen Champion Warren Central in the final four, in Warren Central closest game of the Sweet Sixteen!

 

I am taking nothing away from this year's Holmes team, but your statement is not really accurate, unless you consider four years ago, a long time!

 

Covcath was a dominating team in 03/04. I wasn't trying to take away from what they did. I was talking more along the lines of how dominating they were INSIDE the 9th region though. See my post.

 

Covcath 03/04 (9th region only)

Record- 16-0

Wins against teams with losing records- 5

Avg Margin of Victory- 20.1

Average Margin of Victory over top 5 teams (record wise)- 12

Combined Record of 9th region teams played- 198-141

Teams played inside 9th region with less than 10 wins: 2 (Sk 5-21, Highlands 8-16)

Biggest Margin of Victory: 40 (Over 5-21 Sk)

Closest Margin of Victory: 6 (59-53 over 26-6 NCC, 62-56 over 13-18 Conner)

 

Holmes 07/08 (9th region only)

Record- 15-1 (L 46-45 To NCC)

Wins against teams with losing records- 4

Avg Margin of Victory- 19.2

Average Margin of Victory over top 5 teams (record wise)- 19

Combined Record of 9th region teams played: 197-142

Teams played inside 9th region with less than 10 wins: 0

Biggest Margin of Victory: 34 (Over 19-9 Beechwood)

Closest Margin of Victory- 7 ( 72-65 over 21-9 Covcath)

 

I'd say the two were pretty even against 9th region competition. CCH had one more W against the 9th and their average margin of victory was still just one point better than Holmes. Also CCH played the majority of their starters almost the whole game whereas Holmes rotates 10 players and has still won in convincing fashion.

Both teams were without a doubt 2 of the best teams in recent years against 9th region competition but I'd give Holmes a slight advantage considering they are starting 2 sophomores and Covcath was primarily senior dominated that year.

I'd say the two were pretty even against 9th region competition. CCH had one more W against the 9th and their average margin of victory was still just one point better than Holmes. Also CCH played the majority of their starters almost the whole game whereas Holmes rotates 10 players and has still won in convincing fashion.

Both teams were without a doubt 2 of the best teams in recent years against 9th region competition but I'd give Holmes a slight advantage considering they are starting 2 sophomores and Covcath was primarily senior dominated that year.

 

CCH played the majority of their starters "almost the whole game"? That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, CCH had at least 6 (maybe 7) different players lead them in scoring throughout the regular season on any given night. I'd consider that team one of the most balanced teams in the 9th in recent history.

 

And you're giving the edge to a team that starts 2 sophomores over a team that played 6 seniors & 2-3 juniors (1 who went D1)? Seems odd to give youth the advantage of experience.

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And you're giving the edge to a team that starts 2 sophomores over a team that played 6 seniors & 2-3 juniors (1 who went D1)? Seems odd to give youth the advantage of experience.

 

You misread my post. I meant Holmes dominance inside the 9th this year might be a little more impressive than CCH' of 04 simply because Holmes has done it with a group of young guys where as CCH did it with a senior dominated team.

You misread my post. I meant Holmes dominance inside the 9th this year might be a little more impressive than CCH' of 04 simply because Holmes has done it with a group of young guys where as CCH did it with a senior dominated team.

 

I don't think CCH '04 lost in the region, whereas Holmes had that one L to NCC.

What does all this have to do w/ the Sweet 16? It's over. Holmes was very dominate this year, and CovCath was a dribble off the foot from being in the state championship in '04. However, this is about the 16 regional champions, not whose dad is tougher.

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What does all this have to do w/ the Sweet 16? It's over. Holmes was very dominate this year, and CovCath was a dribble off the foot from being in the state championship in '04. However, this is about the 16 regional champions, not whose dad is tougher.

 

I can live with that.

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