Any idea what rebate means? He made the thread, it's all fair game IMO. He does a fine job of defending himself, I doubt he needs help.

 

:lol: I can argue for myself, but I can ALWAYS use help.

It should be important to all of us because the only way I see that she can do a program like this is by raising our taxes.

 

Or cutting back spending elsewhere...

I paid for my college education, why not pay for your own?

Join the military, they will pay for your education and deservedly so.

 

The military will also pay off student loans. What's the difference? Are teachers and police officers not as important as the military/

I have a couple of loans in the thousands right now. It is my responsibility to pay them not the government.

 

So if you joined the military or if this actually happened and you were a public servant and the government told you they'd pay off those debts, you would turn them down I assume?

So if you joined the military or if this actually happened and you were a public servant and the government told you they'd pay off those debts, you would turn them down I assume?

I don't know if anyone would turn them down, but to me it looks like vote buying, pure and simple. The democrats have used entitlement programs and proposals like this since LBJ to buy votes, imo. At the expense of John Q. Taxpayer.

I don't know if anyone would turn them down, but to me it looks like vote buying, pure and simple. The democrats have used entitlement programs and proposals like this since LBJ to buy votes, imo. At the expense of John Q. Taxpayer.

 

I never said I would actually vote for her, just that I would at least look into this before making my decision.

No one seems to have a problem when the military pays off peoples student loans...do they? What is the difference?

Go to Iraq and serve, and I'm behind you 100%. Join the service and I'm behind you 100%. Public service, not so much.

The military will also pay off student loans. What's the difference? Are teachers and police officers not as important as the military/

Not to me, no they aren't. While I admire both, they pale in comparison to our troops.

Not to me, no they aren't. While I admire both, they pale in comparison to our troops.

 

I disagree completely.

 

I have respect for public servants who put their lives on the line each and every day of their lives just as much as I respect people in the military. And I come from a military family. I truly respect anyone who has the guts to do either. Not sure how anyone could say they "pale in comparison".

I don't want to rattle this hornet's nest, but I have to ask, what then?

 

If, in fact, they do as you say and look into other lines of work, what then? We have even fewer policemen, fewer firefighters, fewer teachers than we already have? And less qualified ones at that.

 

So you would encourage that we scrimp on teaching our future and protecting our citizens? What am I missing here?

 

I understand your argument about entitlement, and in fact I wholeheartedly agree that this generation feels that they are owed some debt by society. However, in this case I don't think that attracting higher level candidates to jobs that increase the "common good" falls under feeling that you are entitled to something.

 

I'm always interested to hear people complain that the educational system is terrible, public service workers are vastly underpaid, etc. etc., but then they apply the "not in my back yard" philosophy when asked to pay for it.

 

Not a personal jab at you BTW, just something that rattles my chain.......

I know a fine young lady that is going to become a police officer, she has no desire to have the govt pay her way, she's happy to do it on her own. I guess I feel better about people doing what I consider the honorable thing. I don't like any gimme programs, they make people lazy and unappreciative.

I disagree completely.

 

I have respect for public servants who put their lives on the line each and every day of their lives just as much as I respect people in the military. And I come from a military family. I truly respect anyone who has the guts to do either. Not sure how anyone could say they "pale in comparison".

War is in no way shape or form the same as civilian life or the city streets. I too come from a military family, I know what my father and grandfather faced and police work pales in comparison.

 

I appreciate what they do and support them, but it just isn't the same.

Because those lenders, the government, will more than get that back in how much they underpay law enforcement workers, in this case.

 

I am with you Halfback, law enforcement agents, do not get paid nearly enough and if this is a little incentive to encourage someone to donate their life for the benefit of society, than I am all for it.

 

I appreciate the sentiment, LBBC, but think you are off-base. I'm not about to disclose my salary on this website, but think you would be very, very surprised. The theory that law enforcement is vastly underpaid is no longer applicable today. Not only that, but we have one of the best retirement programs available. I will agree that it is one of the more dangerous professions out there, but not one of the more poorly compensated ones. And frankly, even if it were, there are a LOT of important professions out there that are underpaid - teachers immediately come to mind - where is the candidate that is offering to forgive their college loans?

I know a fine young lady that is going to become a police officer, she has no desire to have the govt pay her way, she's happy to do it on her own. I guess I feel better about people doing what I consider the honorable thing. I don't like any gimme programs, they make people lazy and unappreciative.

 

I'm fine with paying my own way, but if someone offers to pay for my loans, I'll take it in a heart beat. What's the difference in me or that young lady taking the money, and someone joining the military taking the money to pay off their loans?

 

You keep insinuating that I'm not willing to pay my own way. If I weren't willing to pay my own way, I'd be working at a local factory right now. However, I chose to get the loans, go to college and hopefully one day become involved in law enforcement.

War is in no way shape or form the same as civilian life or the city streets. I too come from a military family, I know what my father and grandfather faced and police work pales in comparison.

 

I appreciate what they do and support them, but it just isn't the same.

 

Joining the military doesn't always entail going to war. I know many people who have been in the military and were never involved in a war.

I appreciate the sentiment, LBBC, but think you are off-base. I'm not about to disclose my salary on this website, but think you would be very, very surprised. The theory that law enforcement is vastly underpaid is no longer applicable today. Not only that, but we have one of the best retirement programs available. I will agree that it is one of the more dangerous professions out there, but not one of the more poorly compensated ones. And frankly, even if it were, there are a LOT of important professions out there that are underpaid - teachers immediately come to mind - where is the candidate that is offering to forgive their college loans?

 

Police officers in Lexington (with a college degree) start off around $40,000 a year according to what I've read. State Police start off a little under that I believe. Richmond PD is much less, same for Berea. In Mount Vernon, the City I'm from, they start off at very low wages.

 

Some positions in law enforcement may pay well, but the starting salaries aren't always great.

 

And what was theguru just saying in another thread about how the pensions for police officers are about to be a mess?