August 23, 200719 yr This is my last comment on this because I dont want to hijack the thread : Being naive is a bad thing going on in society as well.
August 23, 200719 yr This is my last comment on this because I dont want to hijack the thread : Being naive is a bad thing going on in society as well. So is bandwagon.
August 23, 200719 yr Okay... As part of his plea agreement, Phillips (Co-Defendant) signed a statement that said Vick joined in executing at least eight dogs that didn't do well in test fights by various methods, including hanging and drowning. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=sports&id=5578581 And the credability of this witness is? Whether he did it or not, the guy is forced to plea guilty. It's not a matter of whether he did it or not. It's a matter of the Feds getting the owner of the property, which happens to be Michael Vick. Not saying he did or didn't do it, but the guy really had no other options than to say he was guilty. Knowing and involvement are two different things. All his buddies copped plea deals and left him all alone. It could possibly be just having the wrong people around. If my opinion mattered, I'd probably say Marcus had way more to do with it than Michael, but that's my opinion.
August 23, 200719 yr Why don't you actually take FACTS into account in an argument. You got to be kidding me. How naive can you be.
August 23, 200719 yr Why don't you actually take FACTS into account in an argument. You got to be kidding me. How naive can you be. :thumb:
August 23, 200719 yr Why don't you actually take FACTS into account in an argument. You got to be kidding me. How naive can you be. I will ask you again. Did he say it himself? Is it on film or tape? Why dn't you take into account all of the facts. His back is not against the wall, but inbedded in it by his buddies. How do we know that they aren't trying to roll their stuff on him thinking that since he's in the public eye as a celebrity, that the judicial system will go easier on him than themselves? How naive can you be? Stuff like that happens all the time in povern areas and/or dealing with people who don't want to face their punishment.
August 23, 200719 yr I'm done with this until you can come up with something better than that. It happens, whether you choose to look the other way and follow shallow beliefs or not.
August 23, 200719 yr Folks lets not forget that he’s not just guilty of being a cruel idiot, there also the whole “illegally gambling” thing that the NFL is interested in, IMO that may be what keeps him from returning to the league…
August 23, 200719 yr When you breed, train, torture and kill dogs for a monetary gain you go to jail and have your reputation ruined. Not a tough concept to grasp...
August 23, 200719 yr When you breed, train, torture and kill dogs for a monetary gain you go to jail and have your reputation ruined. Not a tough concept to grasp... :thumb:
August 23, 200719 yr When you breed, train, torture and kill dogs for a monetary gain you go to jail and have your reputation ruined. Not a tough concept to grasp...Agreed and I would venture to say, that those who participate don't do so under the auspice of dog fighting being a sport, but rather as "violent entertainment" and a means to wager. If this is such a sport, why is it conducted in convert locations, with no advertising and in clandestine area. Vick new exactly what he was doing and made the choice. Didn't he pleaded to being involved.
August 23, 200719 yr It happens, whether you choose to look the other way and follow shallow beliefs or not. How anyone can defend Vick is absolutely crazy and naive..... I think I've figured you out......Whatever the obvious answer, opinion is, you take the stance of the exact opposite.
August 23, 200719 yr I will ask you again. Did he say it himself? Is it on film or tape? Why dn't you take into account all of the facts. His back is not against the wall, but inbedded in it by his buddies. How do we know that they aren't trying to roll their stuff on him thinking that since he's in the public eye as a celebrity, that the judicial system will go easier on him than themselves? How naive can you be? Stuff like that happens all the time in povern areas and/or dealing with people who don't want to face their punishment. Are you Marcus Vick? Maybe Ron Mexico.....
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