August 10, 200719 yr Hearsay, thats was pretty good. I really have a Lawyer too, but he won't be in Heaven.:jump:
August 10, 200719 yr I think we will carry many of our normal human activities, only we'll be doing so in an environment that is no longer ravaged by sin. Obviously, that's an oversimplification of things, because I do think it's out of our reach to fully imagine the beauty and glory and wonder that awaits us...but, at the same time, the picture I get from the Bible of heaven is not some mystical realm where we float around on clouds playing harps and participating in a neverending church service.
August 10, 200719 yr I plan on doing two things. 1) Ask lots of questions 2) Travel - There's a whole universe to explore!
August 10, 200719 yr In the transfigueration the disiples knew Eligah and Moses. God gave the Israelites angel food in the desert. At calvry Jesus told the thievf that today he would be in paradise. The bible says there will be no sadness, does that mean no women? You know they (women) wouldn't let us (men) walk on streets of GOLD with our shoes on!!! :argue: :irked: :sssh: That is a joke!!
August 11, 200719 yr Author There are a number of thoughtful posts above but now for part two of the query. Most who speak of Heaven do so exhibiting the hope that they will be reunited with loved ones. Many of the above posts express the same sentiment. From my experience, that is most always the overriding theme of discussions of Heaven. Oh, there are always the platitudes in regard to "being with the Lord" and so forth but the overwhelming desire is to see loved ones. I would have to believe that the great majority of you have had the same experience. Now for the question. If, in all honesty, most want to go to Heaven to see loved ones moreso than to see/worship God (and I sincerely believe this is true whether admitted or not), by not putting God first and above all else, are they going to miss their goal?
August 11, 200719 yr I believe it's the unfettered joy of being in the presence of God, that nothing else is at all relative.. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Our souls aren't going to be "flying" to Heaven, it's not really a place. It's being with God.
August 11, 200719 yr Now for the question. If, in all honesty, most want to go to Heaven to see loved ones moreso than to see/worship God (and I sincerely believe this is true whether admitted or not), by not putting God first and above all else, are they going to miss their goal? Interesting question, and it seems like they would miss their goal. The more I think about it, saying "I'll see you in Heaven" seems like something a parent should say to a child or something, and a very immature way of looking at eternal salvation.
August 12, 200719 yr Randy Alcorn had a great book and a GREAT BIBLE STUDY on this topic. It is simply titled Heaven.
August 17, 200719 yr There are a number of thoughtful posts above but now for part two of the query. Most who speak of Heaven do so exhibiting the hope that they will be reunited with loved ones. Many of the above posts express the same sentiment. From my experience, that is most always the overriding theme of discussions of Heaven. Oh, there are always the platitudes in regard to "being with the Lord" and so forth but the overwhelming desire is to see loved ones. I would have to believe that the great majority of you have had the same experience. Now for the question. If, in all honesty, most want to go to Heaven to see loved ones moreso than to see/worship God (and I sincerely believe this is true whether admitted or not), by not putting God first and above all else, are they going to miss their goal? They will only miss their goal if they do not accept Jesus as their savior and ask him to forgive their sins and come into their heart. I think the Lord understands that we miss those who have gone on before. I also think that once we are there, his glory will take precedent over our loved ones, or else we'll spend our time with our loved ones worshiping and praising him. My big question, and this may be for another thread, is what about those that we know who aren't there? I can't wrap my mind around that one. I would think that if a couple pass away, one is saved and the other is not, when I met one in Heaven I would wonder about the other one. And if I cared about that person deeply, how does that reconcile with no pain, sadness, or troubles in Heaven. I know God has it all figured out, but I sure don't.
August 17, 200719 yr They will only miss their goal if they do not accept Jesus as their savior and ask him to forgive their sins and come into their heart. I think the Lord understands that we miss those who have gone on before. I also think that once we are there, his glory will take precedent over our loved ones, or else we'll spend our time with our loved ones worshiping and praising him. My big question, and this may be for another thread, is what about those that we know who aren't there? I can't wrap my mind around that one. I would think that if a couple pass away, one is saved and the other is not, when I met one in Heaven I would wonder about the other one. And if I cared about that person deeply, how does that reconcile with no pain, sadness, or troubles in Heaven. I know God has it all figured out, but I sure don't. I think that's just a case where we have to take God at His word. Like you, I can't imagine not feeling some sadness if I'm aware of a loved one that isn't there with me...all I can figure is that either their memory is wiped from our mind and memory, or sadness and other related "bad" emotions are just not possible for us in heaven and our glorified states. It seems to be one of those things that we can't fathom in our current state. I think that's a question a lot of people have thought about. Another one I've always been curious about is what about the people who are there. For example, what will my relationship with my wife be like in heaven...will we have the same relationship with everyone, or will it be different in some way?
August 17, 200719 yr Author I think that the posts in this thread clearly illustrate the fact that we have absolutely no idea of what to expect and what not to expect. I suppose it all gets down to faith. I still have problems with the apparent fact that most want to go to Heaven to be with loved ones but that God expects us to love Him with all our heart, soul, and mind and certainly ahead of our loved ones. I, for one, will be honest enough to admit that I clearly fail that test.
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