A question to those who know more about the constitution than I do....These constitutional rights only apply to full-fledged American citizens correct?

 

These rights apply to American citizens and those from foreign countries who visit the United States. Miranda v. Arizona says that a person must be notified of their Constitutional rights in their native language.

 

This would also be the same as if an American goes to France. We have to abide by and have the same freedoms as any French person in peace time. Declarations of war change things. Then you get into some interesting international law issues, such as enemy combatants.

I have no problem if the government wants to listen into my phone conversations. I also highly doubt they just go randomly and pick a random person and decide to tap their phones for a couple days.

If they do that randomly they will not here much from me. I do not think they would randomly do that either. They would try to have some evidence and try to more formally reinforce the reason why they would want to tap a random line.

Ironically wasn't the beginning of schools in this country throught the churches. In buildings that was the school M-F and the church on Sunday.

 

I believe the founding fathers, though, expected the people elected into office to be upstanding moral citizens that were founded in Christian faith.

The churches are responsible for starting our oldest universities, but had little to do with other education. As early as 1785, the government mandated that land be set aside in each township for education. While some early private schools had church backing, most private schools were not associated with the church. As far as using the church building for school is concerned, it was simply a matter of convenience. The church was also used as a town assembly hall because of its ability to hold large crowds.

The churches are responsible for starting our oldest universities, but had little to do with other education. As early as 1785, the government mandated that land be set aside in each township for education. While some early private schools had church backing, most private schools were not associated with the church. As far as using the church building for school is concerned, it was simply a matter of convenience. The church was also used as a town assembly hall because of its ability to hold large crowds.

 

Thanks HHSDad.... I unfortunately had forgotten some of that information.:thumb:

These rights apply to American citizens and those from foreign countries who visit the United States. Miranda v. Arizona says that a person must be notified of their Constitutional rights in their native language.

 

This would also be the same as if an American goes to France. We have to abide by and have the same freedoms as any French person in peace time. Declarations of war change things. Then you get into some interesting international law issues, such as enemy combatants.

 

Thanks, I wasn't sure how that worked! :thumb:

 

Would we technically be currently under a declaration of war though? Seems to me we would be.

Thanks, I wasn't sure how that worked! :thumb:

 

Would we technically be currently under a declaration of war though? Seems to me we would be.

 

 

In war time, those that are citizens or members of the group we are at war with could be considered enemy combatants and they can be held until the war is over. This is what happened during WWII, where Germans were shipped to the US to be put in Prisoner of War camps. At the end of the war, they were released. Also, the sides in WWII lived by the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of prisoners of war.

 

Today, the issue is murkier. We are not dealing with a nation-state where we can identify, for the most part, who the enemy is. We are facing groups that look like the people we want to support and protect. The situation is somewhat like Vietnam in this sense that we can't tell the difference between the enemy and the friendly.

 

As far as rights and who has them, as long as people visiting the country are not part of terrorist organizations, they are allowed the same rights as you and I. It is also expected that you and I can go to their countries and live under the protections of their stated rights.

Only Congress has the power to declare war,so we are not under a declaration of war. If we capture someone they are enemy combatants,if our troops are captured they are kidnapped. I served this great country but we need better propaganda then that

Only Congress has the power to declare war,so we are not under a declaration of war. If we capture someone they are enemy combatants,if our troops are captured they are kidnapped. I served this great country but we need better propaganda then that

Instead of formal war declarations, the United States Congress has turned to issuing authorizations of force. Such authorizations have included the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution that greatly increased American participation in the Vietnam War, and the recent "Authorization of the Use of Military Force" (AUMF) resolution that started the War in Iraq. There have been many extended military actions in our history that -- while not being formally declared "wars" -- were authorized by Congress,

 

The Korean War was not a declared war by the U.S. Congress. President Harry S. Truman cited authority under United Nations resolutions. The Revolution itself was not a declared war; nor was the Civil War.

 

Since it's creation, (1973) The War Powers Act has usually been adhered to in military actions. It was followed in the Grenada Conflict, the Panamanian Conflict, the Somalia Conflict, the Gulf War, and the Iraq War. In each case, the President received Congressional authorization that satisfied the provisions of the War Powers Act. The only exception to this was President Clinton's use of U.S. troops in the 78-day NATO air campaign against Serbia during the Kosovo War.

Only Congress has the power to declare war,so we are not under a declaration of war. If we capture someone they are enemy combatants,if our troops are captured they are kidnapped. I served this great country but we need better propaganda then that

You mean like blaming the President for a bridge collapse? That certainly seems to be the party line these days and if people don't see that then Bush supporters aren't the only ones burying their heads in the sand.

You mean like blaming the President for a bridge collapse? That certainly seems to be the party line these days and if people don't see that then Bush supporters aren't the only ones burying their heads in the sand.

 

Isn't that another thread?

Isn't that another thread?

Yes it is. Lets move on.