One is spiritual, one is physical they don't contradict but they are distinctly different and if you choose not to see the difference . . .

 

If they are not EXACTLY the same how can it be literal?

There are parts of the resurrection and crucifixation stories that are not carried in other books. Are none of them not to be believed since they are not identical?

To take my question a step farther, if we evolved from a puddle of goo to an amphious creature that walked out of the water and evolved into an ape who evolved into man, than I guess every creature we see outside of our own windows had to come from some other puddle of goo struck by a lightning bolt evolve into some creature that walked out of the water and evolved into a creature that evolved into a giraffe.

 

Then another sequence that became an elephant.

 

Then another sequence that became a stinkbug.

 

Then another sequence that became a lightning bug.

 

Then another sequence that became a Great Dane.

 

Then another sequence that became a Chihuahua.

 

Then another sequence that became a vulture.

 

It seems very improbable that this occurred.

 

Just like it is improbable that we speak over 1000s of different languages and that pigment is stronger is some than in others and that some people can eat all day and never gain a pound while I can simply smell food and grow two pant sizes.

 

Why do ethnic Norwegians look Norwegian

Why do ethnic African look African

Europeans look European

Southern European look Souther European

Native American look Native American

There are parts of the resurrection and crucifixation stories that are not carried in other books. Are none of them not to be believed since they are not identical?

 

Being left out might mean that someone didn't see it as important, but that is a question for you to answer, not me. These stories of the sermon are supposed to be eyewitnesses of the same event and they came away with 2 different stories that have VERY DIFFERENT meanings. You can't take them both literally.

I agree and does not answer my question. When did the creature that evolved into man start getting their souls? Did the original apes that would not be classified as man have a soul? When did Adam get a soul? If there were apes producing their evolved creatures that became man, then you have to believe that Adam was born of a female creature and NOT created as we read in the Bible.

 

Something against women?

 

Seriously....the science and the faith are not completely separate. If each man receives his soul from God, what does it matter when the first man received his soul? Or, maybe it was a woman? This is where we diverge. I believe that the use of Adam and Eve represent figurative groups, not 2 individuals.

Interesting discussion...sorry I am just now joining. Some points to make:

 

Are there really, truly those of you that believe that the Earth is just 6000 years old?

 

Why do people believe that God has told us everything? If He is as powerful as many (including myself) believe, then what makes us think that all there is to know is put in a book?

 

I am a science teacher. I do not teach biology, so I don't have to deal with the evolution issue. I do teach astronomy and discuss the formation of the universe as the "Big Bang" theory. We talk about the age of the Earth and the formation and evolution of stars and planets. They get it. I have yet to have a student argue with me that the Earth is only 6000 years old and that the Grand Canyon was just "made that way", as opposed to continuing to be carved out over the past million years or so by the same erosional process that is at work today.

Just like it is improbable that we speak over 1000s of different languages and that pigment is stronger is some than in others and that some people can eat all day and never gain a pound while I can simply smell food and grow two pant sizes.

 

Why do ethnic Norwegians look Norwegian

Why do ethnic African look African

Europeans look European

Southern European look Souther European

Native American look Native American

The languages is explained at tower of Babel.

 

Honest question that I do not know the answer to. Are you saying that the DNA for a person living in Norway is markedly or minimally different than the DNA of a person living in Africa? That the two are different creatures.

Interesting discussion...sorry I am just now joining. Some points to make:

 

Are there really, truly those of you that believe that the Earth is just 6000 years old?

 

Why do people believe that God has told us everything? If He is as powerful as many (including myself) believe, then what makes us think that all there is to know is put in a book?

 

I am a science teacher. I do not teach biology, so I don't have to deal with the evolution issue. I do teach astronomy and discuss the formation of the universe as the "Big Bang" theory. We talk about the age of the Earth and the formation and evolution of stars and planets. They get it. I have yet to have a student argue with me that the Earth is only 6000 years old and that the Grand Canyon was just "made that way", as opposed to continuing to be carved out over the past million years or so by the same erosional process that is at work today.

 

It's about time.

The languages is explained at tower of Babel.

 

Honest question that I do not know the answer to. Are you saying that the DNA for a person living in Norway is markedly or minimally different than the DNA of a person living in Africa? That the two are different creatures.

 

What I am saying is that DNA structure of all animals is very close, and it takes only a slight variation to make a significant change.

 

The Tower of Babel explains English and Spanish and Farsi and the Butu dialects and eastern ky dialect and Native American -

Interesting discussion...sorry I am just now joining. Some points to make:

 

Are there really, truly those of you that believe that the Earth is just 6000 years old?

 

Why do people believe that God has told us everything? If He is as powerful as many (including myself) believe, then what makes us think that all there is to know is put in a book?

 

I am a science teacher. I do not teach biology, so I don't have to deal with the evolution issue. I do teach astronomy and discuss the formation of the universe as the "Big Bang" theory. We talk about the age of the Earth and the formation and evolution of stars and planets. They get it. I have yet to have a student argue with me that the Earth is only 6000 years old and that the Grand Canyon was just "made that way", as opposed to continuing to be carved out over the past million years or so by the same erosional process that is at work today.

Where does this 6000 figure come from? I personally have no clue how old this earth is?

 

Any believes that God has told us everything is wrong. He says in the Bible that he does not.

 

I personally believe that the Big Bang theory does fit well with the Bible description in Genesis 1. I believe there was a nothingness and God spoke it was. Same as the Big Bang.

 

I do think that God could easily have 1,000,000 years of the aging of the Earth in that short one day period.

What I am saying is that DNA structure of all animals is very close, and it takes only a slight variation to make a significant change.

 

The Tower of Babel explains English and Spanish and Farsi and the Butu dialects and eastern ky dialect and Native American -

It explains the nature of different languages. Men explain the different dialects. Ebonics is a good example of men changing a language to fit what they want.

What I am saying is that DNA structure of all animals is very close, and it takes only a slight variation to make a significant change.

 

The Tower of Babel explains English and Spanish and Farsi and the Butu dialects and eastern ky dialect and Native American -

Curious on how the evolution debate got two genders from a puddle of goo and an ape.

Think about it-the Bible was written 2000 yrs ago. It explains things now that are now being tried to explain by scientists. The wisdom someone must have had then to explain things now.

Based on the news reports, the museum purports to present evidence that the earth was created 6,000 years ago in a period of six days. My religious and scientific beliefs find that to be a complete misreading of both the Bible and science. I wouldn't take my kids to an exhibit that presents as fact, in an entertaining way, things that are against both my religious and scientific beliefs. I don't find that narrow minded at all. I spent a lot of years in religious schools and a lot of years in the stdy of science. I have never found the slightest conflict between religion and science.

Really? That is very interesting since both evolution and creationism are religious beliefs. So, I am guessing that you are perhaps a Theistic Evolutionist? One who believes that God created through the process of evolution over billions of years . . . you can't marry the theories in this way. Obviously, you don't take the Bible literally (strange --- since you spent years in religious schools) or it wouldn't be hard for you to see the 6,000 years/six days plan. Evolutionists fill our textbooks with their religon (funded by our tax dollars) with supposed "facts" (which cannot be proven . . . thus they are not fact) and continue to pollute the minds of our children forcing their belief system on many unsuspecting kids. I personally feel that if evolution is taught in the school systems (funded by our tax dollars) that Intelligent design should also be presented right along with it . . . in this way, giving the children both views and allowing them to decide. My guess is that they will see the foolishness of the whole Darwinian mess and see that an Intelligent Designer must have had His hand in it all. Oh, by the way, I am a public school teacher. I do present both views (which I am allowed legally to do) and let them decide. I do not force anything on any of them. I present both sides as theory. Kids are a lot smarter than some of us give them credit for. Most see the fallacy right away. Also, you might find the book "Darwin's Black Box" by Michael J. Behe (ISBN 0-684-84393-6) a good read. And, for what it is worth, I am glad that we now have a museum that will present (in the words of the famed Paul Harvey). . . the rest of the story.

Amen-I think most people can see what the Truth is based on facts

Really? That is very interesting since both evolution and creationism are religious beliefs. So, I am guessing that you are perhaps a Theistic Evolutionist? One who believes that God created through the process of evolution over billions of years . . . you can't marry the theories in this way. Obviously, you don't take the Bible literally (strange --- since you spent years in religious schools) or it wouldn't be hard for you to see the 6,000 years/six days plan. Evolutionists fill our textbooks with their religon (funded by our tax dollars) with supposed "facts" (which cannot be proven . . . thus they are not fact) and continue to pollute the minds of our children forcing their belief system on many unsuspecting kids. I personally feel that if evolution is taught in the school systems (funded by our tax dollars) that Intelligent design should also be presented right along with it . . . in this way, giving the children both views and allowing them to decide. My guess is that they will see the foolishness of the whole Darwinian mess and see that an Intelligent Designer must have had His hand in it all. Oh, by the way, I am a public school teacher. I do present both views (which I am allowed legally to do) and let them decide. I do not force anything on any of them. I present both sides as theory. Kids are a lot smarter than some of us give them credit for. Most see the fallacy right away. Also, you might find the book "Darwin's Black Box" by Michael J. Behe (ISBN 0-684-84393-6) a good read. And, for what it is worth, I am glad that we now have a museum that will present (in the words of the famed Paul Harvey). . . the rest of the story.

 

My religion doesn't see a conflict between evolution and religion. I spent 14 years in religious schools (eight years of grammar school, four years of high school and the first two years of college). I was taught about evolution in biology class by a priest. It isn't strange at all.