March 1, 200719 yr ATTENTION EVERYONE: Stick to the topic of the thread, and no sniping at each other.
March 1, 200719 yr I would like to see the Comparison between Tubby and Pitino sense Pitino's return from the NBA. Anyone???? Final fours: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Program rebuilds: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Pushing a once proud program to its depths: Pitino 0 Tubby 1 Etc.
March 1, 200719 yr Tubby 4 Pitino 2 Tubby has won 3 in a row vs. Pitino. Now Im not saying Tubby is a better coach, but you can twist stats around and make them look how you want them to. Tubby obviously doesnt have UK as dominant as they were when Pitino was here, but college basketball is a little more balanced than then and Pitino during his tenure at UK has to be 1 of the top 3 or 4 college bball coaching jobs ever to do what he did here.
March 1, 200719 yr Final fours: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Program rebuilds: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Pushing a once proud program to its depths: Pitino 0 Tubby 1 Etc. Natonal Titles: Pitino 1 Tubby 1
March 1, 200719 yr >> Final Fours Pitino 5 (3 at Kentucky) Tubby 1 Final Four (a player Tubby Smith has recruited has never been to a FF in his 16 year career at Tulsa, Georgia, or Kentucky) WOW !!!!! As I stated in another thread Saul Smith was a Freshman on the 98 championship team. It would be my guess that Tubby recruited him. There were also two other freshman on that team. Whether or not Tubby recruited them I can't say.
March 1, 200719 yr Final fours: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Program rebuilds: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Pushing a once proud program to its depths: Pitino 0 Tubby 1 Etc. Did Louisville really need rebuilding?
March 1, 200719 yr Did Louisville really need rebuilding? I had season tickets during Denny's final years (business reasons). I couldn't give them away. I'd say they needed a pretty major over-haul at that point.
March 1, 200719 yr Natonal Titles: Pitino 1 Tubby 1 Interesting point. Rick took a probation ravaged team and buit them back into a national heavy-weight that went on a great run. Tubby took a over a program at its zenith, won another title with it and never got back to the final four. This may be a case where one doesn't equal one.
March 1, 200719 yr Get over it, Pitino is long gone and not coming back. :thumb: :thumb: Some I guess love to look in the rear view mirror.
March 1, 200719 yr Interesting point. Rick took a probation ravaged team and buit them back into a national heavy-weight that went on a great run. Tubby took a over a program at its zenith, won another title with it and never got back to the final four. This may be a case where one doesn't equal one. Anyone who thinks UK's 98 team was the most talented team in college basketball is off. They werent. It was a team that had lost 3 starters from the year before, one a consensus All American. Say what you want, but Tubby did a great job with that team. As I have said, Pitino did an amazing job his time here at UK. No denying that. And I still love Pitino for it.
March 1, 200719 yr Missed tournaments: Pitino 1 Tubby 0 Also, how many ppg is Louisville averaging this season? UK? Just wondering.
March 1, 200719 yr I got this in an e-mail and I thought i would share. Percentage of games ranked in top 5: Tubby 16% Pitino 59% (53% if you include probation year). Number of Home losses: Tubby 19 Pitino 5 (7 if you include probation year). 10+ loss seasons: Tubby 4 (in 7 years - soon to be 5 in 8 ) Pitino 0 (1 if you include probation year) >> Average number of losses per year: Tubby 7.9 (about to push that up over 8 ) Pitino 5.14 (6.25 if you include 14-14 probation year) >> Number of games in top 5: Tubby in 326 games ranked 54 games in top 5 Pitino in 269 games ranked 142 games in top 5 Games played as #1 ranking: Pitino 10 Tubby 4 Games played as #2 ranking: Pitino 44 Tubby 14 Games played as #3 ranking: Pitino 33 Tubby 10 Games played as #4 ranking: Pitino 18 Tubby 15 Games played as #5 ranking: Pitino 37 Tubby 11 Total games with top 5 ranking: Pitino 142 Tubby 54 >> Team Turmoils: Tubby 2 Pitino 0 >> Transfers out of the Program: Tubby 14 Pitino 7 >> NBA 1st round draft picks: Tubby 2 Pitino 10 >> Rick Pitino's 1st year 14-14 probation team averaged over 10 ppg more than ANY Tubby Smith team except 2. Pitino average d 8.9 ppg more than those 2 teams: >> Rick Pitino - Points per Game 1989-90 88.82 1990-91 85.89 1991-92 85.72 1992-93 87.50 1993-94 86.88 1994-95 87.39 1995-96 91.44 1996-97 83.13 >> Tubby Smith takes over (lets see what happens to PPG) 1997-98 80.08 1998-99 75.41 1999-00 69.09 2000-01 79.79 2001-02 76.88 2002-03 77.28 2003-04 73.91 2004-05 73.62 2005-06 70.77 2006-07 72.32 >> Final Fours Pitino 5 (3 at Kentucky) Tubby 1 Final Four (a player Tubby Smith has recruited has never been to a FF in his 16 year career at Tulsa, Georgia, or Kentucky) WOW !!!!! >> Championship Games Pitino 2 Tubby 1 (none with players he recruited) >> NCAA Tournament Winning Percentage Pitino 22-5 (.783) Tubby is 23-8 (.663) >> Tidbits: * Pitino beat 11 teams seeded 5th or higher in 6 NCAA Tournaments. * Tubby has beaten 4 teams seeded 5th or higher in 9 NCAA Tournaments, and j ust one since his first season at Kentucky. >> Adolph Rupp said that if the Basketball program at the University of Kentucky should fail, then he has built it upon a sand foundation. I hate to see that come true, but with each progressive season under Coach Tubby Smith, the University of Kentucky's foundation has weakened to where it is now at the point of collapse. In his 9 (soon to be 10) years at Kentucky he has nearly destroyed what it took 100 years to build I love this post!
March 1, 200719 yr Natonal Titles: Pitino 1 Tubby 1 Pitino got there program in termoil, Pitino rebuilt it. Tubby got there program rebuilt, Tubby put it back in termoil. Tubby rode the coattails of what Rick taught them. And go t himself a title. Like someone said some of you have excepted losing!!
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