6 hours ago, BlueBloodedColonel said:

I want to live to see the day St. Henry goes toe to toe with Beechwood on the gridiron at the varsity level. Will that be anytime soon? It's an honest question, no disrepect to St. Henry. I know they are a new program.

If I am a talented football kid, or the parent of one, and the decision for school is only between St. Henry or CCH, I am going to the school that goes toe to toe with other regional blueboods, Beechwood and Highlands, every year. That's looking at it just from a football lens.

I would have thought the same, but I personally know families that chose St. Henry over CCH and they had ties to CCH. Have no idea why, but they did.

I think CCH will still get the best athletes, but their depth will suffer. If you're gonna sit the bench at CCH or play at St. Henry, you may choose to go somewhere to play. CCH may be ok writing off backups, but backups often times develop into starters or help a team win when the injury bug hits. Like now.

39 minutes ago, Cov_Cath_Hwy said:

This! St. Henry, no disrespect, has had and will have zero impact on Colonel Football. This frosh team was the big school runner up in the 6th grade in the GCYL and had a winning record as 7th graders. 8th grade was devastating year for this squad as they dealt with 2 very key/devastating injuries while at the same time losing 4 additional core/key starters to baseball - and not to St. Henry.

Tate Kruer's 8th grade squad went winless, as @UKato91 pointed out in the Colonel 2026 team thread, and were not good as frosh and then by senior year they absolutely rolled, and balled out en route to one of the biggest upsets in recent memory beating nationally 15th ranked Boyle County on the road. 2028 & 2029 will be no issue for this squad.

For this year, if you look at the sidelines you have more kids in street clothes than in uni's. Not one team yet has played this frosh team even close at full strength, and will not. They have had as many as 8 two-way starters out for the first 4 games with 3rd string WR's playing on both lines. With 4 minutes left in the first quarter of the first game against Highlands they watched 3 starters, including their starting QB go to the hospital. That included 1 who left via ambulance, immobilized after a 45 minute pause on the field and it left them devastated and utterly and criminally undermanned. You are beating a shell of this team. It's neither an accomplishment nor an upset because we all know by 2029 what the results will be when they take the field as seniors.....dominance, period. Wait until everyone sees their QB play next year.....and Dylan Courtney, our current varsity QB and arguably the best QB in NKY, missed his 8th grade & frosh seasons, with the same injury the current frosh QB has and the results speak for themselves now and they will in 2028 & 2029. The frosh QB is special and on another level.

They start to get healthy this week slowly, but will never be at full strength this year. St. Henry, while a tremendous school, no doubt about it, is not having any impact on Cov. Cath. football whatsoever, and will not. They are not comparable in the slightest. This frosh team will have tough sledding no doubt so everyone can take some joy in it now and get a notch in their belt because it is just blip that will explode away decisively starting next year. The future will see the same standard met and exceeded for this class as is the usual at Cov. Cath. as this team gets healthy and seasoned as is always the case.

The Frosh Colonels will absolutely be fine going forward. Only folks not in the know are worried as this is a special group that no one yet has seen them play.....and when you do it will be Roll Colonels!!!

Better hope CCH leadership isn't moving forward with the same rose colored glasses or this program WILL be in trouble.

34 minutes ago, TheConfluence said:

Better hope CCH leadership isn't moving forward with the same rose colored glasses or this program WILL be in trouble.

Facts are a scary thing I know. However, facts are easy at 20/20 vision and when you actually have first hand, direct knowledge of all that is going on.

29 minutes ago, Cov_Cath_Hwy said:

Facts are a scary thing I know. However, facts are easy at 20/20 vision and when you actually have first hand, direct knowledge of all that is going on.

Then you don't have all the facts. If you did, you wouldn't say St. Henry will have ZERO impact on CCH.

Here's a fact. Brayden Hughes, one of the top Freshman in NKY, comes from a long line of CCH men and is currently getting varsity minutes at St. Henry. Now, he may not get those same minutes at CCH, but he would most certainly be the best freshman on that CCH team and it wouldn't be close.

So, even if he's the ONLY player, which he's not, one is not zero.

You may think you know everything about CCH football, which you have proven you don't, you most certainly don't know as much about NKY football as you think.

Once again, I'm not in the "CCH football is over' camp, but to say St. Henry will have ZERO impact on CCH is delusional.

CCH as a program will be fine, but the negative press on this freshman team is factually warranted.

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2 hours ago, Cov_Cath_Hwy said:

The Frosh Colonels will absolutely be fine going forward. Only folks not in the know are worried as this is a special group that no one yet has seen them play.....and when you do it will be Roll Colonels!!!

I don't know friend. Sitting in the stands for last night's Frosh game, there were definitely several Colonel parents, who I assume are "folks in the know', expressing frustration and worry about the team this year and moving forward.

The impact St. Henry will definitely have over CCH is the multi sport student. It is becoming extremely difficult for kids at CCH to play two to three sports. St. Henry being a smaller school, will get some of those athletes because they want to continue to play multi sports. St. Henry is much better at sharing athletes than CCH.

26 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

The impact St. Henry will definitely have over CCH is the multi sport student. It is becoming extremely difficult for kids at CCH to play two to three sports. St. Henry being a smaller school, will get some of those athletes because they want to continue to play multi sports. St. Henry is much better at sharing athletes than CCH.

Interesting point. I'm not enough in the know to say what CCH will and won't "allow", but the fact that smaller schools have more multi-sport athletes is accurate. There is always room for the ELITE multi-sport athlete, but it's those fringe players that often have to pick one or the other. As we all know, those fringe players can turn into major impact players.

1 hour ago, TheConfluence said:

Then you don't have all the facts. If you did, you wouldn't say St. Henry will have ZERO impact on CCH.

Here's a fact. Brayden Hughes, one of the top Freshman in NKY, comes from a long line of CCH men and is currently getting varsity minutes at St. Henry. Now, he may not get those same minutes at CCH, but he would most certainly be the best freshman on that CCH team and it wouldn't be close.

So, even if he's the ONLY player, which he's not, one is not zero.

You may think you know everything about CCH football, which you have proven you don't, you most certainly don't know as much about NKY football as you think.

Once again, I'm not in the "CCH football is over' camp, but to say St. Henry will have ZERO impact on CCH is delusional.

CCH as a program will be fine, but the negative press on this freshman team is factually warranted.

Man, you are lost. You keep swinging and missing on info you have no direct knowledge of along with a skewed view of talent to put it kindly. Feel free to continue to "evaluate' the Frosh Colonels a 1,000 feet away. When you can legit name a team that has taken the field with 8 two-way starters in street clothes, then maybe "negative press is factually warranted'. It is just petty and small to think otherwise. And yes, St. Henry has gained some players from CCH, but it is no one who would have an impact this year or for any upcoming classes. This Frosh team lost 2 players to St. Henry that in the past had no impact so it was a zero loss. And Brayden has been in the St. Henry system since Kindergarten and was never going to go Cov. Cath. and it's not anything about who is the better school, He was just always going to St. Henry period. And good for Him that He is getting varsity minutes as a Freshman as that usually happens when a team is only in their 2nd varsity season and looking for bodies.

I would love to see the crystal ball or peyote you are using to determine how good Hughes would be on a team where basically no starters have seen the field yet. He would not even be close to the athlete our QB is as I cannot wait until He gets turned loose next season.

The Frosh Colonels are in for a rough road as every single team would be in the exact same situation and they will weather it and be fine. I was also in the stands last night as I am for every Frosh game and those that are "worried' are overreacting because it's a terrible situation for these players who started working their butts off together in February and now will never get to have a Frosh season together to know that is like to play together and what could have been. They don't quit in games even though they have zero bench now and even though they know they are outmanned so I will take their character every day and all day on Sunday. They are making that leap from grade school to Freshman under a ton adverse conditions that are just wacky and that is what builds greatness.....the hard road and the hard path. Their time will come and those that have paid attention know that. Roll Colonels!

I personally will enjoy watching the Colonels these next 4 years!

9 hours ago, Birds Fly South said:

Based upon the past two seasons, one has to think the St. Henry impact is real.

The freshman Colonels were in the championship last year while their best player was busy making 50+ tackles and forcing multiple turnovers on varsity. I think the current sophomore group is very good with a bunch of future college players.

If the class next year is bad, then I'd start to worry.

5 minutes ago, Cov_Cath_Hwy said:

Man, you are lost. You keep swinging and missing on info you have no direct knowledge of along with a skewed view of talent to put it kindly. Feel free to continue to "evaluate' the Frosh Colonels a 1,000 feet away. When you can legit name a team that has taken the field with 8 two-way starters in street clothes, then maybe "negative press is factually warranted'. It is just petty and small to think otherwise. And yes, St. Henry has gained some players from CCH, but it is no one who would have an impact this year or for any upcoming classes. This Frosh team lost 2 players to St. Henry that in the past had no impact so it was a zero loss. And Brayden has been in the St. Henry system since Kindergarten and was never going to go Cov. Cath. and it's not anything about who is the better school, He was just always going to St. Henry period. And good for Him that He is getting varsity minutes as a Freshman as that usually happens when a team is only in their 2nd varsity season and looking for bodies.

I would love to see the crystal ball or peyote you are using to determine how good Hughes would be on a team where basically no starters have seen the field yet. He would not even be close to the athlete our QB is as I cannot wait until He gets turned loose next season.

The Frosh Colonels are in for a rough road as every single team would be in the exact same situation and they will weather it and be fine. I was also in the stands last night as I am for every Frosh game and those that are "worried' are overreacting because it's a terrible situation for these players who started working their butts off together in February and now will never get to have a Frosh season together to know that is like to play together and what could have been. They don't quit in games even though they have zero bench now and even though they know they are outmanned so I will take their character every day and all day on Sunday. They are making that leap from grade school to Freshman under a ton adverse conditions that are just wacky and that is what builds greatness.....the hard road and the hard path. Their time will come and those that have paid attention know that. Roll Colonels!

This QB you speak of must really be something. Is he really that much better of an athlete than Hughes ? Not even close as you put it. There are a lot of really good freshman at Highlands and Ryle too. Is he that much better than those kids as well? Just asking because I've never heard that this team was supposed to be that good.

2 minutes ago, CCHFC said:

The freshman Colonels were in the championship last year while their best player was busy making 50+ tackles and forcing multiple turnovers on varsity. I think the current sophomore group is very good with a bunch of future college players.

If the class next year is bad, then I'd start to worry.

Sophomore class is loaded for sure!

3 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Sophomore class is loaded for sure!

How did they finish last year?

10 minutes ago, Cov_Cath_Hwy said:

Man, you are lost. You keep swinging and missing on info you have no direct knowledge of along with a skewed view of talent to put it kindly. Feel free to continue to "evaluate' the Frosh Colonels a 1,000 feet away. When you can legit name a team that has taken the field with 8 two-way starters in street clothes, then maybe "negative press is factually warranted'. It is just petty and small to think otherwise. And yes, St. Henry has gained some players from CCH, but it is no one who would have an impact this year or for any upcoming classes. This Frosh team lost 2 players to St. Henry that in the past had no impact so it was a zero loss. And Brayden has been in the St. Henry system since Kindergarten and was never going to go Cov. Cath. and it's not anything about who is the better school, He was just always going to St. Henry period. And good for Him that He is getting varsity minutes as a Freshman as that usually happens when a team is only in their 2nd varsity season and looking for bodies.

I would love to see the crystal ball or peyote you are using to determine how good Hughes would be on a team where basically no starters have seen the field yet. He would not even be close to the athlete our QB is as I cannot wait until He gets turned loose next season.

The Frosh Colonels are in for a rough road as every single team would be in the exact same situation and they will weather it and be fine. I was also in the stands last night as I am for every Frosh game and those that are "worried' are overreacting because it's a terrible situation for these players who started working their butts off together in February and now will never get to have a Frosh season together to know that is like to play together and what could have been. They don't quit in games even though they have zero bench now and even though they know they are outmanned so I will take their character every day and all day on Sunday. They are making that leap from grade school to Freshman under a ton adverse conditions that are just wacky and that is what builds greatness.....the hard road and the hard path. Their time will come and those that have paid attention know that. Roll Colonels!

First of all, no one is questioning the heart of these freshman kids. It's certainly valiant, but to say other teams don't face similar adversity is close-minded.

In one breath you say St. Henry will have zero impact on CCH and in another you say St. Henry gained players that would have went to CCH. That math ain't mathing. You're trivializing kids who WERE in your program, but decided to go elsewhere. You say they had "no impact" and they were "zero loss". Man, that's tough to say about a kid. Given how injured CCH is right now, those kids could be helpful right now.

Who is this Freshman QB you speak of that no one has heard of? What Middle School did he go to? He may very well be "special" as you say, but I know of no other high-level MS QBs not named Jaxston Moeves, Ben Jackson, or Ethan Hopkins. After last night, I may include Nolan Shafer on that list. Once again, this QB may be the next coming and I'm 100% interested to hear about him. Legitimately, no sarcasm.

Brayden would not be at St. Henry right now if they didn't have a football team. You're lying to this forum or yourself if you think otherwise. To say this unknown player is more of an athlete than Brayden is wild. All the more reason why I have to know who you're speaking of. Brayden isn't a QB so he may not have QB skills, but he's a freak of an athlete and would most certainly help the product CCH is putting on the field right now.

You say only those "not in the know" are worried, yet when confronted with the fact that "those in the know are worried", you say they're overreacting. Well, which is it? Are they "not in the know" or are they "overreacting"?

Like I said earlier, I'm of the opinion that CCH will be just fine (and NKY football is better when the top teams, including CCH, are good), but highly disagree with your take that St. Henry will have ZERO impact on CCH. ZERO is such a powerful word. "Little" I could buy. "Small"? Ok. "Limited"? Probably better. That's the only point I was trying to make. With that said, if you want to continue to push, I will happily engage on pointing out the falsehoods you continue to make.

42 minutes ago, CCHFC said:

The freshman Colonels were in the championship last year while their best player was busy making 50+ tackles and forcing multiple turnovers on varsity. I think the current sophomore group is very good with a bunch of future college players.

If the class next year is bad, then I'd start to worry.

The CURRENT Freshman Colonels were in the championship last year? Which league?