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Xavier Hires Sean Miller

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9 minutes ago, theguru said:

If it was any of us commoners we would be in prison but the rich/elite just keep on trucking. 

White collar crime gets treated differently. I often see stories of people embezzling from the company where they work getting light sentences, pay reparations and move on. What these coaches did is less of a crime than embezzlement.

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  • Miller sitting out a year wasn't his own decision. You left that out. No program wanted him. He was caught red handed on wire tap by the FBI discussing $100k to DeAndre Ayton.  Nassir Little ende

  • From the quick bit of reading I have done it appears so, try this link: If you are being investigated for an alleged tax crime committed in conjunction with at least one other person, you are lik

  • Exactly and considering that is the case, hiring an outlaw coach with experience to run your outlaw activity seems like a smart decision.   Trust me VoR (everyone) I had the same thought process when

Just now, Voice of Reason said:

White collar crime gets treated differently. I often see stories of people embezzling from the company where they work getting light sentences, pay reparations and move on. What these coaches did is less of a crime than embezzlement.

Try being the point man on a criminal conspiracy where ultimately no taxes taxes are paid on hundreds of thousands of dollars and see how that works out for you. 

6 minutes ago, theguru said:

Try being the point man on a criminal conspiracy where ultimately no taxes taxes are paid on hundreds of thousands of dollars and see how that works out for you. 

Where on scale of offenses would you put NCAA coaches participating in a scheme to pay recruits?

1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

Where on scale of offenses would you put NCAA coaches participating in a scheme to pay recruits?

I am going to let the Great Google Machine handle this one:

Criminal Tax Fraud Charges - Under IRC § 7201, any person who willfully attempts to evade or defeat taxes can be charged with a felony, with penalties including up to $100,000 in fines ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), up to five years in prison, and the costs of prosecution.

1 minute ago, theguru said:

I am going to let the Great Google Machine handle this one:

Criminal Tax Fraud Charges - Under IRC § 7201, any person who willfully attempts to evade or defeat taxes can be charged with a felony, with penalties including up to $100,000 in fines ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), up to five years in prison, and the costs of prosecution.

So, since the coaches helped with under the table money which whoever received it did not report or pay taxes, the coaches are guilty of tax fraud.

4 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

So, since the coaches helped with under the table money which whoever received it did not report or pay taxes, the coaches are guilty of tax fraud.

From the quick bit of reading I have done it appears so, try this link:

If you are being investigated for an alleged tax crime committed in conjunction with at least one other person, you are likely to be charged with more than just the crime itself. Conspiracy and aiding and abetting tax violations have their own charges and penalties, and the (powers that be) usually do not need to prove that you succeeded in pulling off the illegal venture – only that you contributed to the effort.

You may be charged with aiding and abetting a tax crime if you assist or participate in a scheme that is carried out by another person, where you knew and intended to cause or assist that person to commit the crime. The other person need not be found guilty.

https://moskowitzllp.com/practice-areas/criminal-tax-law/conspiracy-or-aiding-and-abetting-tax-violations/

Have any of these head coaches acknowledged even knowing the payments were happening? Have any been charged? Will any of the assistants and others charged turn on the head coaches?

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

Have any of these head coaches acknowledged even knowing the payments were happening? Have any been charged? Will any of the assistants and others charged turn on the head coaches?

College basketball is corrupt and it is all bad for the brand, nothing to see here...

Moving forward, even though I now consider Xavier an "Outlaw Program" I assume Sean Miller will once again work his magic and that is good for Xavier. 

15 minutes ago, theguru said:

College basketball is corrupt and it is all bad for the brand, nothing to see here...

Moving forward, even though I now consider Xavier an "Outlaw Program" I assume Sean Miller will once again work his magic and that is good for Xavier. 

And now that we have NIL dollars, the outlaw activity in the NCAA is legal for all programs.

3 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

And now that we have NIL dollars, the outlaw activity in the NCAA is legal for all programs.

Exactly and considering that is the case, hiring an outlaw coach with experience to run your outlaw activity seems like a smart decision.   Trust me VoR (everyone) I had the same thought process when I was riding @futurecoach's coattails on Pitino coming to X.

1 hour ago, theguru said:

College basketball is corrupt and it is all bad for the brand, nothing to see here...

Moving forward, even though I now consider Xavier an "Outlaw Program" I assume Sean Miller will once again work his magic and that is good for Xavier. 

With NIL the illegal can now be legal. There are people in Cincinnati with ties to Xavier lining up to "help" with recruiting efforts lol.

15 minutes ago, 9068 said:

With NIL the illegal can now be legal. There are people in Cincinnati with ties to Xavier lining up to "help" with recruiting efforts lol.

As there needs to be!

The NIL is an arms race and X just hired the top free agent general. 

By the way, X beat Florida 72 to 56 in the NIT today and now they have Vandy in semi-finals at Cintas. 

1 minute ago, theguru said:

As there needs to be!

The NIL is an arms race and X just hired the top free agent general. 

By the way, X beat Florida 72 to 56 today in the NIT today and now they have Vandy in semi-finals at Cintas. 

In SC. Was going to check that score in a minute. Thanks! I guess as a Xavier grad school alumni I'll keep getting bigger donation requests lol.

26 minutes ago, theguru said:

As there needs to be!

The NIL is an arms race and X just hired the top free agent general. 

By the way, X beat Florida 72 to 56 in the NIT today and now they have Vandy in semi-finals at Cintas. 

Two teams who have lost their head coach. Good for XU on the win. When is the semifinal game?

Just now, Voice of Reason said:

Two teams who have lost their head coach. Good for XU on the win. When is the semifinal game?

Tuesday or Wednesday. 

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