Don't we hear about 3-4 kids a year jumping ship in Corbin, is this just fans listening to small talk or is there another factor here?

That's exactley the attitude that keeps good programs down. It should be the coaches job to use all their education skills and find ways to get and keep these boys on the field. Once you have them the hard part starts. To tell a teenager this is how it is, take it or leave it, is not the answer. That's a cop out. Some may have it to start with, some may not. If you run them off, how can this pride and tradition everyone talks so much about be taught. Are you just born with it or what? A good LEADER and MOTIVATOR will find ways to work with the ones that may not catch on as fast. The success of any leader depends on his followers. It's easy to ignore this, and just let them go away. A true leader will find a way to take a negative and turn it into a positive. Life is much to short and sometimes you only get one chance to make a difference. Hope everything works out though.

 

I have heard some corbin fans say that the biggest complaint they have with their coach is that he doesnt want any kids who you might call "borderline" playing. If I am understanding you correctly, you think that he could make a difference for some of these kids by getting them to play, maybe bending a little and then have them learn & grow from the discipline he instills in his players.

Sounds like a good concept

That's exactley the attitude that keeps good programs down. It should be the coaches job to use all their education skills and find ways to get and keep these boys on the field. Once you have them the hard part starts. To tell a teenager this is how it is, take it or leave it, is not the answer. That's a cop out. Some may have it to start with, some may not. If you run them off, how can this pride and tradition everyone talks so much about be taught. Are you just born with it or what? A good LEADER and MOTIVATOR will find ways to work with the ones that may not catch on as fast. The success of any leader depends on his followers. It's easy to ignore this, and just let them go away. A true leader will find a way to take a negative and turn it into a positive. Life is much to short and sometimes you only get one chance to make a difference. Hope everything works out though.

You ask every kid to come out. You lay down a strict set of guidelines. If they do not follow these guidelines, there must be a set of punishment. That way thay either become dedicated or disapear. Half dedicated players, if allowed to remain on a team, will eventually hurt the team. You must have the highest demands of every member of your team as far as attendace and discipline goes. If you allow one to remain that doesn't meet those demands, he will brings others on the team down to his level of expectations.

You ask every kid to come out. You lay down a strict set of guidelines. If they do not follow these guidelines, there must be a set of punishment. That way thay either become dedicated or disapear. Half dedicated players, if allowed to remain on a team, will eventually hurt the team. You must have the highest demands of every member of your team as far as attendace and discipline goes. If you allow one to remain that doesn't meet those demands, he will brings others on the team down to his level of expectations.

Pretty close minded thinking in todays world, Try and operate a business that way and see how much success you would have. Their are always good and bad. To take the bad and make good shows leadership, compasion, and one heck of a sucessful person.

I have heard some corbin fans say that the biggest complaint they have with their coach is that he doesnt want any kids who you might call "borderline" playing. If I am understanding you correctly, you think that he could make a difference for some of these kids by getting them to play, maybe bending a little and then have them learn & grow from the discipline he instills in his players.

Sounds like a good concept

AMEN!

Pretty close minded thinking in todays world, Try and operate a business that way and see how much success you would have. Their are always good and bad. To take the bad and make good shows leadership, compasion, and one heck of a sucessful person.

A football team isn't a buisness. You have to be there because you love it. You either learn to love the game, the grind, and the discipline, or you will act as a anchor to those around you. Do you really think that Trinity, St. X, Beechwood, Highlands, Cov Cath, New Cath, and so on keep players on their team that are not 100% dedicated? I don't think so. It is your job as a coach to make your guidelines tough enough that the bad either become better, or they decide that it is not for them.

A football team isn't a buisness. You have to be there because you love it. You either learn to love the game, the grind, and the discipline, or you will act as a anchor to those around you. Do you really think that Trinity, St. X, Beechwood, Highlands, Cov Cath, New Cath, and so on keep players on their team that are not 100% dedicated? I don't think so. It is your job as a coach to make your guidelines tough enough that the bad either become better, or they decide that it is not for them.

Seeing how they have 5 times the field to choose from, Lucky for them! they can afford to be more like college. Football is just like a business, You work hard, and you get pride and respect every friday. Only the more sucessful ones bring home the ring at the end of the season.

Seeing how they have 5 times the field to choose from, Lucky for them! they can afford to be more like college. Football is just like a business, You work hard, and you get pride and respect every friday. Only the more sucessful ones bring home the ring at the end of the season.

Do you think that you will ever be able to compete with these teams by keeping your work ethic and dedication demands lower than their's? That is a pipe dream. A kid doesn't help a football program out that isn't dedicated. At least, he won't help a football program out when the going is getting tough in competition. NCC and Beechwood do not have five times the people to choose from. They win football games by being dedicated and disciplined. They beat more athletic teams all the time.

Do you think that you will ever be able to compete with these teams by keeping your work ethic and dedication demands lower than their's? That is a pipe dream. A kid doesn't help a football program out that isn't dedicated. At least, he won't help a football program out when the going is getting tough in competition. NCC and Beechwood do not have five times the people to choose from. They win football games by being dedicated and disciplined. They beat more athletic teams all the time.

Think your missing the point, everyone knows you have to put in hard work, many many hours of tape and on field instruction. Point is you must find out what makes these boys tick, Not all are motivated by the same formats. Communication, understanding, flexibility, and both point of views must be acknowledged and discussed. Only then will they understand the concept of TEAM.

I thought this was a thread about players in 2007?

Think your missing the point, everyone knows you have to put in hard work, many many hours of tape and on field instruction. Point is you must find out what makes these boys tick, Not all are motivated by the same formats. Communication, understanding, flexibility, and both point of views must be acknowledged and discussed. Only then will they understand the concept of TEAM.

I see your point, but remember the concept of team. You can't have one member of the team contributing harder than the other, and have both of those members trust one another. There is a trust that is developed through mutual hard work and dedication. Different expectations for different players doesn't form a team. It is each individual player's responsibility to give himself over and conform to the concepts and expectations of the team. To be a great football player, you have to place the good of the whole above yourself. You must also realize that the good of the whole involves you giving everything you have. A player should be a better MAN for going through a football program. One of those first lessons will be that what he wants or thinks may not be that important. I will grant you, that is a hard lesson for some young men in today's society.

That's exactley the attitude that keeps good programs down. It should be the coaches job to use all their education skills and find ways to get and keep these boys on the field. Once you have them the hard part starts. To tell a teenager this is how it is, take it or leave it, is not the answer. That's a cop out. Some may have it to start with, some may not. If you run them off, how can this pride and tradition everyone talks so much about be taught. Are you just born with it or what? A good LEADER and MOTIVATOR will find ways to work with the ones that may not catch on as fast. The success of any leader depends on his followers. It's easy to ignore this, and just let them go away. A true leader will find a way to take a negative and turn it into a positive. Life is much to short and sometimes you only get one chance to make a difference. Hope everything works out though.

Cop out? No, just good old fashioned discipline. Setting rules and expecting the kids to follow them is not a cop out. The problem is Moms and Dads who get mad when their baby is told to do something and expected to do it. If expecting a kid to follow rules runs them off, chances are the kid is a trouble maker who doesn't want to be under someone's direction. Coaches should expect to give some a little more than other's. There are kids who need a little more attention but it cannot be done in such a way as to be interpreted as favoritism. The problem is you have good players who because they are good, Mom and Dad expect and cause the kid to expect that they should be treated different and special. That don't happen with Corbin's staff. They try to give all the kids a chance but in return they expect all the kids to follow the same rules. In my experience the kids that have been leaving the last few years are just looking for the easy way out and there shouldn't be and there isn't anything easy about practicing football or any sport but if you don't practice you don't improve your game I don't care who or how good you are. And the Friday night lights is where the pay off is. Especially when you are still under them in November.

I heard from a buddy of Campbell's tonight that he probably won't go anywhere when it's all said and done. Hopefully there is some truth to that.

That's exactley the attitude that keeps good programs down. It should be the coaches job to use all their education skills and find ways to get and keep these boys on the field. Once you have them the hard part starts. To tell a teenager this is how it is, take it or leave it, is not the answer. That's a cop out. Some may have it to start with, some may not. If you run them off, how can this pride and tradition everyone talks so much about be taught. Are you just born with it or what? A good LEADER and MOTIVATOR will find ways to work with the ones that may not catch on as fast. The success of any leader depends on his followers. It's easy to ignore this, and just let them go away. A true leader will find a way to take a negative and turn it into a positive. Life is much to short and sometimes you only get one chance to make a difference. Hope everything works out though.

 

When you are not a part of or have not been you will never know. That is the same attitude that has built the program. Take it or leave it. Corbin football demands respect and if a player isn't willing to do so maybe he does need to go down the road.

Cop out? No, just good old fashioned discipline. Setting rules and expecting the kids to follow them is not a cop out. The problem is Moms and Dads who get mad when their baby is told to do something and expected to do it. If expecting a kid to follow rules runs them off, chances are the kid is a trouble maker who doesn't want to be under someone's direction. Coaches should expect to give some a little more than other's. There are kids who need a little more attention but it cannot be done in such a way as to be interpreted as favoritism. The problem is you have good players who because they are good, Mom and Dad expect and cause the kid to expect that they should be treated different and special. That don't happen with Corbin's staff. They try to give all the kids a chance but in return they expect all the kids to follow the same rules. In my experience the kids that have been leaving the last few years are just looking for the easy way out and there shouldn't be and there isn't anything easy about practicing football or any sport but if you don't practice you don't improve your game I don't care who or how good you are. And the Friday night lights is where the pay off is. Especially when you are still under them in November.

 

Exactly, discipline is a thing that if they have never had it they can't take it when it happens to them especially by a coach who "can't tell me what to do". Like it or lump it. Corbin will be just fine without them. Hey maybe this is what they want everyone to get all up in arms about them leaving and blame the coaches as long as the blame is not on them. Well guess what not too many people are worried at all and the ones who understand are not blaming the coaches. The faults lie much deeper.