October 16, 200619 yr And Narron has been a manager how long at Cincy? Narron's name is not relevant. Pick another Reds manager. Just curious on where Strike3 places the emphasis on winning in his equation.
October 16, 200619 yr I didn't say who I would prefer, I was just simply stating that he would never be considered another Dusty Baker. A manager that has led team/teams to WS and then goes off to manange another down and out team to fail, fail miserably. Just to clear things up.
October 16, 200619 yr Does winning come into play? Cause Lou brought Cincy a WS title and Narron has yet too.He was alluding to respect and I listed winning %, which is how many judge success as a Manager. In addition, I listed the base throwing tantrums and clubhouse altercations, as a reflection of his character. I'll take Baker and his character/reputation, over Pinella's. Winning should take care of itself, if the manager and players work together.
October 16, 200619 yr A manager that has led team/teams to WS and then goes off to manange another down and out team to fail, fail miserably. Just to clear things up. So are you talking about Dusty, Giants/Cubs or Lou, Reds/Mariners/Devil Rays.
October 16, 200619 yr Narron's name is not relevant. Pick another Reds manager. Just curious on where Strike3 places the emphasis on winning in his equation. You made it relevant. I'll stand with Strike on this one. I'll take a manager that wins with dignity over a manager that wins and throws tantrums on the field.
October 16, 200619 yr He was alluding to respect and I listed winning %, which is how many judge success as a Manager. In addition, I listed the base throwing tantrums and clubhouse altercations, as a reflection of his character. I'll take Baker and his character/reputation, over Pinella's. :thumb: Just curious, where do you rank Bobby Cox on the all-time great manager's list. Great, great run that we may not see in our lifetime but really struggled to win the big one more than once although he had numerous chances too.
October 16, 200619 yr You made it relevant. I'll stand with Strike on this one. I'll take a manager that wins with dignity over a manager that wins and throws tantrums on the field. So where would you put Pitino. Great coach but his language and the way he yells/cusses at his players is horrendous. Good discussion BTW. I am enjoying it.
October 16, 200619 yr So where would you put Pitino. Great coach but his language and the way he yells/cusses at his players is horrendous. Good discussion BTW. I am enjoying it. I'll take Tubby or Coach K.
October 16, 200619 yr :thumb: Just curious, where do you rank Bobby Cox on the all-time great manager's list. Great, great run that we may not see in our lifetime but really struggled to win the big one more than once although he had numerous chances too. Has to be considered, one of the best Managers in MLB. Not sure of his won/lost record, but how many other accomplished what the Braves did, the last 13-14 years. In researching Cox, he's won over 100 games....6 times in his career.
October 16, 200619 yr Has to be considered, one of the best Managers in MLB. Not sure of his won/lost record, but how many other accomplished what the Braves did, the last 13-14 years. In researching Cox, he's won over 100 games....6 times in his career. You are correct, and to add to that he has won between 90-99 games 7 times with the Braves and once with the Blue Jays. in 25 years as a manager he has only had 5 losing seasons. He has 2171 wins and 1685 losses. Winning % of .563 He ranks 5th on the all-time wins list as a manager only behind 1) Connie Mack 3731 2) John McGraw 2763 3) Tony LaRussa 2297 4) Sparky Anderson 2194
October 16, 200619 yr I'd take Piniella over Baker. I'd also take Pitino when he left UK over Tubby, but I don't know who I'd take in present day. They both are having struggles. And as for Cox, what he did with that streak was flat out incredible.
October 16, 200619 yr I think Pinella is a good fit, need someone to come in and shake things up a bit and bust some tails!!!
October 17, 200619 yr Great move from Hendry for my beloved Cubbies. Now hopefully with the 15-20% payroll increase he will live up to his word and bring in some big names........Barry Zito preferably.
October 17, 200619 yr They have agreed to a 3 year deal... Sweet Lou says that he wants Alex Rodriguez, and the Cubbies are expected to go after him hard...
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