Superintendents are responsible for every single student in their district K12, academically and athletically. Football coaches are not.

 

Didnt say they werent, just saying in Texas, its different. Football Coaches are the biggest fundraisers in must schools in Texas, they are the biggest community outreach as well. It is different in Texas than in Kentucky.

Didnt say they werent, just saying in Texas, its different. Football Coaches are the biggest fundraisers in must schools in Texas, they are the biggest community outreach as well. It is different in Texas than in Kentucky.

We all understand that Texas is different than KY. We just don't agree that the head coaching job is on par with the superintendent's.

You must work or have worked for some bad administrators.......

 

Check around the state and ask some coaches.

I don't care who he is or where he coaches, the head football coach is certainly not on par with the principal, let alone the superintendent. That's just plain silly.

If we broke down the number of hours worked, I could see where a Head Football Coach could justify a salary commensurate with that of a principle.

 

Principle: Let's say eight hours a day, five days a week makes for 40 hours. Let's say we have a hard working principle that puts in two hours a day before school and two hours a day after school is out. That makes for 12 hours a day and 60 hours a week. Let's even say that principle works 60 hours a week year around.

 

Football coach: eight hours a day teaching, one hour prep before practice, two hours of practice a day, one hour of post practice critique with the staff, that makes 12 hours a day for five days a week and also 60 hours a week. Plus, Saturday films and I know many that also have Sunday films, we can call that a conservative four hours on the weekend and brings the total to 64 hours. Add, summer practice to that, weights, organizing/planning/participating in 7 on 7s. Also, add associating meetings, emails, banquets, parent phone calls, booster's meetings, painting/supervising painting of fields, fund raisers and other duties. I'd say that works out to at least 70 hours a week most of the year and at least 60 hours a week the rest of the time.

Without a doubt. Football coaches, basketball coaches, softball coaches, and Athletic directors are all way underpaid at a lot of schools throughout the state.

 

Now it reads right. :lol2:

I don't care who he is or where he coaches, the head football coach is certainly not on par with the principal, let alone the superintendent. That's just plain silly.

 

Agree 100%, and whoever thinks otherwise is delusional.

Are the coaches in Texas required to teach also? I have heard that most don't.

This thread takes me back to my 1st yr of a 2 yr teaching career in 1996 when a local school district asked me to be the Assistant Varsity coach and told me that my stipend was $1,200. Mind you this was for basketball and the season started Oct 15th and ended in Feb. I think it came out to 76 cents per hour. Lol

If we broke down the number of hours worked, I could see where a Head Football Coach could justify a salary commensurate with that of a principle.

 

Principle: Let's say eight hours a day, five days a week makes for 40 hours. Let's say we have a hard working principle that puts in two hours a day before school and two hours a day after school is out. That makes for 12 hours a day and 60 hours a week. Let's even say that principle works 60 hours a week year around.

 

Football coach: eight hours a day teaching, one hour prep before practice, two hours of practice a day, one hour of post practice critique with the staff, that makes 12 hours a day for five days a week and also 60 hours a week. Plus, Saturday films and I know many that also have Sunday films, we can call that a conservative four hours on the weekend and brings the total to 64 hours. Add, summer practice to that, weights, organizing/planning/participating in 7 on 7s. Also, add associating meetings, emails, banquets, parent phone calls, booster's meetings, painting/supervising painting of fields, fund raisers and other duties. I'd say that works out to at least 70 hours a week most of the year and at least 60 hours a week the rest of the time.

 

Not talking hours, talking responsibility, numbers of staff supervised and impact of the principal's decisions vs the coach's. No comparison, even in Texas.

To be honest I think for what the time and effort that a coach dies during a season and off-season I think they are every bit the same salary or more then a principal...you see head football coaches all the time get paid more than a president on a college level....I know it's different level but in some ways the same in the sense of scenario.

Haha! My last coaching stipend was for $3,500 before taxes. I'd hate to actually break it down to a per hour rate.

Not talking hours, talking responsibility, numbers of staff supervised and impact of the principal's decisions vs the coach's. No comparison, even in Texas.

I understand the responsibility part and don't disagree, but I think the hours worked by the coaches is a concern and warrants a quality salary.

 

What if we take into account the fact that, at the vast majority of schools, football and basketball allows the schools to offer other sports? If not for these two sports, many schools could not offer, or would lose a great deal of money, offering sports such as track, softball, baseball, ect.

 

I know it's not the same thing, but like college football allows colleges to have research facilities, medical schools, and the like. This justifies colleges paying coaches millions. Likewise, high schools have many student opportunities because of the bigger money sports.

I don't care who he is or where he coaches, the head football coach is certainly not on par with the principal, let alone the superintendent. That's just plain silly.

 

That said, they are grossly underpaid in KY.

 

The one thing I haven't seen brought up in this thread is pressure. How many people within a school district have more scrutiny placed on them by outside forces than coaches?

Even in KY, HS football and basketball is covered by most local newspaper, radio's ect...The better your program, the more exposure and coverage you get. How many people have seen hi lites from the speech or Drama club on the 11 o'clock Friday news...how many principals are being raked over the coals for calls and performance week in and week out on message boards?

 

Coaches around the country at the HS level rarely do their job for financial ramification...Administrative positions within a district have become fairly lucrative spots and few of them come with the pressure of performance as coaching positions do!