With all the fuss about Joe Torre and Alex Rodriguez possibly being ex-Yankees, I found this article on ESPN Page 2 interesting. And possibly correct...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/061009&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

 

Basically, he says trading Jeter makes more sense for the Yankees for several reasons.

 

1. A-Rod is the better player.

2. Jeter has more trade value.

3. Jeter is older.

4. Jeter is more expensive (to the Yankees)

5. Jeter doesn't provide the leadership needed.

With all the fuss about Joe Torre and Alex Rodriguez possibly being ex-Yankees, I found this article on ESPN Page 2 interesting. And possibly correct...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/061009&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

 

Basically, he says trading Jeter makes more sense for the Yankees for several reasons.

 

1. A-Rod is the better player.

2. Jeter has more trade value.

3. Jeter is older.

4. Jeter is more expensive (to the Yankees)

5. Jeter doesn't provide the leadership needed.

1-4, I could see, but I don't get #5. Can't access the article because espn is blocked. BTW, I would take a Jeter for Dunn trade.

1-4, I could see, but I don't get #5. Can't access the article because espn is blocked. BTW, I would take a Jeter for Dunn trade.

 

Basically, he questions Jeter not trying to help out with all the media crap and fans booing and stuff like that pertaining to A-Rod. When asked why, Jeter said it wasn't his job to tell fans what to do or tell reporters what to write. But, Caple points out that Jeter stood by and defended Giambi during the steroid scandal. I think he has a point. If you're a team leader and a guy who commands the respect in New York that Jeter does shouldn't you try to do something to improve the situation...whether he likes A-Rod or not, you'd think he'd want to do it for the good of the team if nothing else.

 

I really think the article makes a strong point. I don't see it happening, but...

Won't happen. The fans would want Cashman on a stick if he were to trade off Jeter.

 

So, ARod has more HR's, RBI's, and a better SLG%. Can he lead the team? No. Is he the better SS? No. Jeter is clutch. ARod is a great hitter. And he's younger.... a year younger.

 

Like I said before, I'll take clutch before I'll take a power hitter.

Basically, he questions Jeter not trying to help out with all the media crap and fans booing and stuff like that pertaining to A-Rod. When asked why, Jeter said it wasn't his job to tell fans what to do or tell reporters what to write. But, Caple points out that Jeter stood by and defended Giambi during the steroid scandal. I think he has a point. If you're a team leader and a guy who commands the respect in New York that Jeter does shouldn't you try to do something to improve the situation...whether he likes A-Rod or not, you'd think he'd want to do it for the good of the team if nothing else.

 

I really think the article makes a strong point. I don't see it happening, but...

...Jeter is correct, that is part of managements operations and not the part of a player.

 

How did Jeter defend Giambi?...what was said or done.

 

Fans pay money, good money (too much in my opinion) and they have the right, to cheer, boo or dislike any player or coach. Doesn't make it right but they have that right....$20mil a year, is a lot of burden to carry for any superstar.

...Jeter is correct, that is part of managements operations and not the part of a player.

 

How did Jeter defend Giambi?...what was said or done.

 

Fans pay money, good money (too much in my opinion) and they have the right, to cheer, boo or dislike any player or coach. Doesn't make it right but they have that right....$20mil a year, is a lot of burden to carry for any superstar.

 

I agree...if you're just going to be a player. But, if you're supposed to be a leader, I think there are certain additional responsibilities that come with that title.

I agree...if you're just going to be a player. But, if you're supposed to be a leader, I think there are certain additional responsibilities that come with that title.

Being Captain, is Baseball related and not media/fan related. Handling matters within the clubhouse, motivating others by play, discussing situations with players in private and their responsibilities.

 

Being outspoken in the media, would be detrimental to any player as a "teammate", for fear they would talk about any issue. All professional teams have marketing department and most all professional athletes, have agents and publicists, who handle these very issues.

 

My thoughts, Jeter or anyone who has the "Captain" role, is not part of being outspoken via the media.

I don't agree with # 1 or # 5.

Jeter is also correct in his comments. His job is to play baseball to the best of his ability and provide leadership on & off the field. I think he does both.

If I were the Boss, Jeter would be a Yankee for as long as he chooses to do so.

I say keep them both. They need to revamp the pitching staff if they want to win.

How did Jeter defend Giambi?...what was said or done.

 

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Here's what Jeter said after Giambi sort of admitted steroid use:

 

"We're here to support him," Jeter, the Yankees captain, said after working out Monday at the team's minor league complex. "He's obviously in a tough situation. I've been on teams that had guys that have made mistakes in the past. When you're a team, everyone is one family. I'm sure he's going to hear a lot about it over this year. We're going to be there to support him because he's one of us."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2005-02-15-giambi-support-baseball-canseco_x.htm

 

 

Asking why Jeter didn't step up for his struggling teammate now is a fair question considering he went to bat for someone who broke the rules.

Here's what Jeter said after Giambi sort of admitted steroid use:

 

"We're here to support him," Jeter, the Yankees captain, said after working out Monday at the team's minor league complex. "He's obviously in a tough situation. I've been on teams that had guys that have made mistakes in the past. When you're a team, everyone is one family. I'm sure he's going to hear a lot about it over this year. We're going to be there to support him because he's one of us."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2005-02-15-giambi-support-baseball-canseco_x.htm

 

Asking why Jeter didn't step up for his struggling teammate now is a fair question considering he went to bat for someone who broke the rules.

Never said it wasn't a fair question but this appears to be more, about a player who had broken MLB rules and violated the substance abuse, rather than a players ability on the field.

 

Giambi admitted he made a mistake publicly, then his teammates publicly stated, they would support him. A-Rod's question, is about why no others have basically asked the fans to leave him alone....different path and direction, in my opinion.

 

Off the field issues of performance enhancement, is different that on the field performance. I still can't believe, a player who hits .290, 35HR's and 125RBI's, has anything to defend, other than his exhorbanent salary.

Never said it wasn't a fair question but this appears to be more, about a player who had broken MLB rules and violated the substance abuse, rather than a players ability on the field.

 

Giambi admitted he made a mistake publicly, then his teammates publicly stated, they would support him. A-Rod's question, is about why no others have basically asked the fans to leave him alone....different path and direction, in my opinion.

 

Off the field issues of performance enhancement, is different that on the field performance. I still can't believe, a player who hits .290, 35HR's and 125RBI's, has anything to defend, other than his exhorbanent salary.

And Jeter may not be defending Arod because simply he doesn't like his work ethic, him, or something else. Hard to stand up and defend someone that you don't want to stand up and defend.

And Jeter may not be defending Arod because simply he doesn't like his work ethic, him, or something else. Hard to stand up and defend someone that you don't want to stand up and defend.

You may be right, not sure. If a player has made public comments in the media, then others can respond. We don't know what goes on in the clubhouse and how they interact.

 

I'm sure many reporters, will probe and try even to create dissension, where none may/may not exist. If A-Rod makes public statements, about the fans being too tough on him or need to, back off a little and any teammate, including Jeter, has comments supporting those statements....I'm fine with that.

 

I like A-Rod's talent and he's in a no win situation. Yankees win and it's "did he do enough"....Yankees lose and it's "did he do enough". He helped create this problem, by signing that "tax-free" contract in Texas though, so fans have the right, to cheer and boo A-Rod or anyone.

1-4, I could see, but I don't get #5. Can't access the article because espn is blocked.

Should be fixed now :thumb:

I say keep them both. They need to revamp the pitching staff if they want to win.

BINGO!:thumb: