Like Guru said, schools need to be equipped to handle their students without the SRO acting as a bouncer. Unless the teacher thinks the child is a threat to themselves or others, call the parents. Too often police are called upon to act as disciplinarians/parents for children who are lacking that from their guardians.

 

But who in the school should be that person to handle the students? Who is equipped to do that? Discipline has been taken out of schools, consequences for actions has been taken out of schools.

But who in the school should be that person to handle the students? Who is equipped to do that? Discipline has been taken out of schools, consequences for actions has been taken out of schools.

 

That is for the schools to figure out.

 

If the schools weren't failing in this area the Police wouldn't even be involved.

That is for the schools to figure out.

 

If the schools weren't failing in this area the Police wouldn't even be involved.

 

I think that is a lot to lay on the school system. I think schools are overwhelmed by the bad hands getting dealt to them.

Gotta agree with G on this one. There may be some inner city schools that need police in the hallways. An elementary school is not one. School administrators are in a no win situation, but they ultimately are responsible for trouble making(not lawbreaking) students. When laws are broken, then police should be involved, not disciplinary situations.

 

I 100% agree.

Why just a gun or weapon?

 

What if a kid beats another classmate with his fist?

 

What if a kid beats another teacher or administrator with his fist?

 

What if a kid puts another kid in an mma type hold? or a teacher perhaps?

 

I am talking a 6-7 year old 2nd grader, not a 200 pound high school kid. That's one of the two problems with what happened. Using the SRO in the first place and then handcuffing a 2nd grader.

Kid - 2nd Grader same thing, the age shouldnt be an issue, they should be treated the same.

 

Disagree in a big way with this. This kid was not a threat. He was using profanity, throwing things and trying to hit and kick administrators. All very unacceptable and needed to be de-escalted. There were many trained staff that could have restrained the kid. It is done, unfortunately, more than most think in schools.

I had James Alex Fields in my Cub Scout Den and he was just a little bit older than the child who is the subject here. James is Bi Polar and was a very serious threat to others and himself at a very young age. Restraining this individual with hand cuffs would be extremely appropriate. Would the jury had been more forgiving of the school district if the student involved had killed one of his fellow students?

 

That was not near the situation here. No other kid was around, it was in the assistant principal's office.

Disagree in a big way with this. This kid was not a threat. He was using profanity, throwing things and trying to hit and kick administrators. All very unacceptable and needed to be de-escalted. There were many trained staff that could have restrained the kid. It is done, unfortunately, more than most think in schools.

 

Sounds like a threat to me.

Sounds like a threat to me.

 

So an educated adult would feel threatened by a 2nd grader throwing a tantrum? I would say that is a weak person who shouldn't be in a position to teach/supervise our children.

So an educated adult would feel threatened by a 2nd grader throwing a tantrum? I would say that is a weak person who shouldn't be in a position to teach/supervise our children.

 

2nd grader throws a pair of scissors, that's not a threat? If they are throwing things and assaulting adults and other students that is not a threat. Why are we so quick to give kids a free pass to do bad things, specifically things that can injury and potentially kill someone.

2nd grader throws a pair of scissors, that's not a threat? If they are throwing things and assaulting adults and other students that is not a threat. Why are we so quick to give kids a free pass to do bad things, specifically things that can injury and potentially kill someone.

 

No, that's not a threat, that's a kid throwing a tantrum. If you can't handle a kid throwing a tantrum, then you need to find another profession. We're talking about a 2nd grader, not a middle school or high school kid. A 2nd grader is only a threat if you let them be a threat.

 

Look, I've got 3 kids and 4 grand kids, so I've dealt with my share of tantrums.

That was not near the situation here. No other kid was around, it was in the assistant principal's office.

 

What did he do to earn the trip to the asst. principals office?

I think that is a lot to lay on the school system. I think schools are overwhelmed by the bad hands getting dealt to them.

 

You have my attention, what solution(s) are you offering up?

OK, there's a lot of acronyms going on here. For those of us uninformed, what does RTI and IEP mean?

You have my attention, what solution(s) are you offering up?

 

I don't have a solution, but I don't thinks schools should be expected to fix everything that is wrong with kids these days. Let's face it, there are far more violent children in our schools than there were 20 years ago. It is not the schools' fault. I think most do the best they can, and if their efforts fail, they may need police protection. I know teachers who have terrible stories, usually due to absent parenting.

 

Perhaps police intervention would add extra weight to to social agencies to investigate problems in the home.

 

I hate to think we have come to a time where police are necessary when all else fails, but we are certainly there.