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Open Job: Taylor County

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Rumor Mill has Foley the middle school Coach at one of the Pulaski middle schools. Yes I'm sure ppl will question the hire. Does Foley has any high School exprience?

 

Not to be rude...but should that even matter for Taylor County?

 

If this was a noted top level program who has been at a championship level then definitely I think it has merit for questioning, but this is Taylor County where a 2nd Round playoff appearance is a big deal.

 

If they Administration feels Foley gives them the best chance to advance their program and is the best option for candidates out there then more power to them.

 

I view it like an Arkansas State hiring a High School Head Coach like Gus Malzahn.

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Not to be rude...but should that even matter for Taylor County?

 

If this was a noted top level program who has been at a championship level then definitely I think it has merit for questioning, but this is Taylor County where a 2nd Round playoff appearance is a big deal.

 

If they Administration feels Foley gives them the best chance to advance their program and is the best option for candidates out there then more power to them.

 

I view it like an Arkansas State hiring a High School Head Coach like Gus Malzahn.

 

Very true point, after all you had the KY football God, how did that work out?

Not to be rude...but should that even matter for Taylor County?

 

If this was a noted top level program who has been at a championship level then definitely I think it has merit for questioning, but this is Taylor County where a 2nd Round playoff appearance is a big deal.

 

If they Administration feels Foley gives them the best chance to advance their program and is the best option for candidates out there then more power to them.

 

I view it like an Arkansas State hiring a High School Head Coach like Gus Malzahn.

 

I agree 100% and I'm glad a new coach got a chance beside just recycling old coaches, and especially those who haven't won in their previous HC jobs.

 

I was just stating the fact I'm sure TC ppl will question the hire, not saying I am personally questing the hire. Taylor isn't a very good program and threw money at Hilton and pulled him in. Personally I think Hilton did as good as a job as could be done at Taylor county. 7 wins is a GREAT season for Taylor county imo. And their was rumors that perry Thomas would take the job.

 

I hope foley does a good job, and honestly if offered the Adair county job last year should have took it IMO. Taylor County has been through numerous Head Coach in the past 6-7 years. Seems that it's just unreal expectations for that program. As said a playoff would is an amazing season for them.

Good hire if true. A guy under 40 that knows how to win.

 

Running a MS program at that level is better than being a HS asst at 80% of the programs in the state.

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I agree 100% and I'm glad a new coach got a chance beside just recycling old coaches, and especially those who haven't won in their previous HC jobs.

 

I was just stating the fact I'm sure TC ppl will question the hire, not saying I am personally questing the hire. Taylor isn't a very good program and threw money at Hilton and pulled him in. Personally I think Hilton did as good as a job as could be done at Taylor county. 7 wins is a GREAT season for Taylor county imo. And their was rumors that perry Thomas would take the job.

 

I hope foley does a good job, and honestly if offered the Adair county job last year should have took it IMO. Taylor County has been through numerous Head Coach in the past 6-7 years. Seems that it's just unreal expectations for that program. As said a playoff would is an amazing season for them.

 

This will be their 5th coach in 9 years. Agreed on the hire if true...Jason will be more than a solid hire.

 

For what it's worth; he was offered by Adair.

 

So many of these "county" schools, especially in their area, have had lots of turnover. It's hard to build/expect much when places are looking at having 3-5 coaches (or more) within the last decade (or less).

This will be their 5th coach in 9 years. Agreed on the hire if true...Jason will be more than a solid hire.

 

For what it's worth; he was offered by Adair.

 

So many of these "county" schools, especially in their area, have had lots of turnover. It's hard to build/expect much when places are looking at having 3-5 coaches (or more) within the last decade (or less).

 

5 coaches in 9 season isn't a good track record. That's the main reason why I think the Adair job was a better job last year than Taylor county. Going through 5 coaches in 9 years is for sure a red flag imo.

 

At county schools it takes time to build a program because they must be built from the ground up. You must get the little league going to get numbers. The amount of turnover is crazy. Coaches aren't giving time to be successful, I feel they need at least 4-5 to get at least a group of kids from freshman through their program. Such as winter lifting, spring ball, and things such as that.

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5 coaches in 9 season isn't a good track record. That's the main reason why I think the Adair job was a better job last year than Taylor county. Going through 5 coaches in 9 years is for sure a red flag imo.

 

At county schools it takes time to build a program because they must be built from the ground up. You must get the little league going to get numbers. The amount of turnover is crazy. Coaches aren't giving time to be successful, I feel they need at least 4-5 to get at least a group of kids from freshman through their program. Such as winter lifting, spring ball, and things such as that.

 

Agreed, and for what it's worth...had he taken the Adair job he'd have been there 4th in 9 years. You said it all.

This will be their 5th coach in 9 years. Agreed on the hire if true...Jason will be more than a solid hire.

 

For what it's worth; he was offered by Adair.

 

So many of these "county" schools, especially in their area, have had lots of turnover. It's hard to build/expect much when places are looking at having 3-5 coaches (or more) within the last decade (or less).

 

Agreed...but they have brought much of that change on themselves (the local county schools), it hasn't always been on the coaches that were there as much as it has been the admin. Glad to see TC may get a guy who will stay...as long as Cook will keep him that is.

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Agreed...but they have brought much of that change on themselves (the local county schools), it hasn't always been on the coaches that were there as much as it has been the admin. Glad to see TC may get a guy who will stay...as long as Cook will keep him that is.

 

No doubt. A huge; if not overwhelming majority of the reasons for turnover. What I was alluding to, but should have stated.

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Don't know if the Foley rumors are true but I do know three things:

 

1) If you can coach middle school kids effectively, you can coach ANY level effectively.

 

2) Question about middle school coaches miss a major point... Unlike OCs/DCs, middle school HCs have actually run a program. They have made a practice schedule, taken care of transportation, developed a budget, supervised coaches, & dealt with administrators. The best middle school HCs run their programs much like HS programs, anyway, which leads me to my next point...

 

3) Foley is one of the best middle school coaches around. His teams are ALWAYS among the best in the state. The experience arguments are bunk... He has plenty of experience. I don't know if he will succeed at Taylor, but it won't be because he is not a good-enough coach, because he "ONLY" coached middle school.

1) If you can coach middle school kids effectively, you can coach ANY level effectively.

 

Disagree. If you look at 12 & 13 year old middle school athletes and pinpoint the things that excite and motivate them the most, those are NOT the same as the things that excite and motivate a 16, 17, or 18 year old high school athlete.

Don't know if the Foley rumors are true but I do know three things:

 

1) If you can coach middle school kids effectively, you can coach ANY level effectively.

 

2) Question about middle school coaches miss a major point... Unlike OCs/DCs, middle school HCs have actually run a program. They have made a practice schedule, taken care of transportation, developed a budget, supervised coaches, & dealt with administrators. The best middle school HCs run their programs much like HS programs, anyway, which leads me to my next point...

 

3) Foley is one of the best middle school coaches around. His teams are ALWAYS among the best in the state. The experience arguments are bunk... He has plenty of experience. I don't know if he will succeed at Taylor, but it won't be because he is not a good-enough coach, because he "ONLY" coached middle school.

 

I'm not going to poo poo this hire because quite frankly people dont want to work for Roger.

I do have a question. Give me an example of a middle school HC who has moved straight to hs HC and strung together 3-4 winning seasons at any point. Foley may become the first and that's cool but that's not happened yet.

Don't know if the Foley rumors are true but I do know three things:

 

1) If you can coach middle school kids effectively, you can coach ANY level effectively. False

 

2) Question about middle school coaches miss a major point... Unlike OCs/DCs, middle school HCs have actually run a program. They have made a practice schedule, taken care of transportation, developed a budget, supervised coaches, & dealt with administrators. The best middle school HCs run their programs much like HS programs, anyway, which leads me to my next point... True

 

3) Foley is one of the best middle school coaches around. His teams are ALWAYS among the best in the state. Talent

 

There are also questions about where the talent came from.

Taylor County schools made it official on their Facebook page.

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