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The Muslim Travel Ban - How did we get to this point?

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christianity/islam

love thy neighbor, / kill thy neighbor

evangelize share the gospel/ convert or die

gay is sin/ gay is worthy death as punishment

love thy wife like Jesus loves the father/ wife has no rights and is property

 

The list goes on and on, Jim what's your point? Converting? Feel a need to defend sharia all of a sudden, or are you feeling liberal and need to try to dump on Christians today?

 

Ephesians 5:25

 

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

 

"as Jesus loves the church, not the Father."

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I guess this Ban thread has no takers. I mean its after all some really good questions. :ohbrother:

 

Most likely because everyone saw how the last thread went and is avoiding it.

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Most likely because everyone saw how the last thread went and is avoiding it.

 

This is a easy thread. No having to spin anything. Just facts.

This is a easy thread. No having to spin anything. Just facts.

 

Yeah, we'll see. :lol2:

Ephesians 5:25

 

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

 

"as Jesus loves the church, not the Father."

 

Close but no cigar. Dang Hatz...lol

Not exactly the same thing Jim.

 

christianity/islam

love thy neighbor, / kill thy neighbor

evangelize share the gospel/ convert or die

gay is sin/ gay is worthy death as punishment

love thy wife like Jesus loves the father/ wife has no rights and is property

 

The list goes on and on, Jim what's your point? Converting? Feel a need to defend sharia all of a sudden, or are you feeling liberal and need to try to dump on Christians today?

 

I bolded only the definition part — "submission to the will of God." I mentioned nothing else involved with the Islamic faith, so spare me you partisan hackery. I'm no Democrat.

 

I pose the question again: Isn't submission to the will of God a basic tenet of Judaism and Christianity, as well as Islam?

Close but no cigar. Dang Hatz...lol

 

They call me: "Kill Joy!" :lol2: :thumb:

I bolded only the definition part — "submission to the will of God." I mentioned nothing else involved with the Islamic faith, so spare me you partisan hackery. I'm no Democrat.

 

I pose the question again: Isn't submission to the will of God a basic tenet of Judaism and Christianity, as well as Islam?

 

Any religion requires some amount of submission.

We all argue and give talking points as to why we side with either the Republicans, Democrats or whatever ideology we support. However why are we at this point?

 

1. What prompted a ban?

 

2. Why are Muslims being targeted?

 

3. Why do Muslims want Americans dead? For the PC people why do Radical Islamic Terrorists want us dead?

 

4. Why do we think that refugees will love America? These are not people who necessarily are wanting US citizenship. They are displaced from their home because of war etc. Their mentality and way of life is very much different that what America is built on. What makes anyone think you can put oil and water together?

 

I think we can all, and I really mean both sides, can learn alot here if we discuss this without slant and just facts.

 

JJ, if you really wanted the bolded you would have phrased your questions a little differently.

 

I'm not sure why I am engaging, but it's pretty simple to me. How did we get to this point? Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller got a seat at the table.

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JJ, if you really wanted the bolded you would have phrased your questions a little differently.

 

I'm not sure why I am engaging, but it's pretty simple to me. How did we get to this point? Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller got a seat at the table.

 

I am not wanting slant. I just want facts. Now you start with blame on two people? Is this correct? How have these two people got us to where we are? All my questions are very straight forward with not a lot of wiggle room. Thats why you do not engage.

I am not wanting slant. I just want facts. Now you start with blame on two people? Is this correct? How have these two people got us to where we are? All my questions are very straight forward with not a lot of wiggle room. Thats why you do not engage.

 

"Why do Muslims want Americans dead?"

 

But yes, unless you don't believe the news, look no further than the trainwreck that was the rollout. Meeting in secret, poaching aids and keeping the rest of the administration in the dark. All from two guys who dont shy away from their controversial and troubling world views.

SCOTUS will hear the case in October.

 

Until then the SCOTUS has allowed the ban to be in effect other than for people who have a close familial relationship with someone in the US.

SCOTUS will hear the case in October.

 

Until then the SCOTUS has allowed the ban to be in effect other than for people who have a close familial relationship with someone in the US.

 

Just read this also. Good news.

The original ban was a 90-day ban which was needed to do vetting.

 

We're past 90 days. How does that, if in any way, factor into the SCOTUS decision?

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