Anyone can get on here and say the politically correct thing. Let's be honest...the main factor is winning.

 

I'm not politically correct in the least, but you're right, it is all about winning................in life.

I'm not politically correct in the least, but you're right, it is all about winning................in life.

 

No one cares about that. People say they do but let a coach have a team that constantly loses 15 games a year and those life lessons he is teaching get thrown out the window.

Just click through final score threads. The posts are awesome.

 

 

Yep, it always gets to lousy coaching and the refs.

No easy answer but good programs win consistently. That builds the legacy I think many coaches desire. All the other stuff mentioned really is important. But as a coach I want to win consistently.

Building a program. Whether you are dealt a good hand or not when you take the job is irrelevant. The most successful high school teams in the state also have the best youth programs and this is the same for every sport. You become part of "the program" in elementary school. By the time kids reach high school they know what is expected of them so they are already ahead of the game and have a higher skill set. This is all about winning. This is how you continue to win.

Building a program. Whether you are dealt a good hand or not when you take the job is irrelevant. The most successful high school teams in the state also have the best youth programs and this is the same for every sport. You become part of "the program" in elementary school. By the time kids reach high school they know what is expected of them so they are already ahead of the game and have a higher skill set. This is all about winning. This is how you continue to win.

 

Agree. It starts at the lowest levels.

Building a program. Whether you are dealt a good hand or not when you take the job is irrelevant. The most successful high school teams in the state also have the best youth programs and this is the same for every sport. You become part of "the program" in elementary school. By the time kids reach high school they know what is expected of them so they are already ahead of the game and have a higher skill set. This is all about winning. This is how you continue to win.

I disagree completely with HS coaches having the best youth programs. The best youth programs are now AAU ran and do not involve most high school coaches. Covington Catholic has it going on right now. How involved is Coach Ruthatz in elementary aged kids? There is not enough time in the day for him to know all the kids in all the parochial schools. A big public school with success? Cooper?? How many elementary schools feed into Cooper High School? 3 or 4??? How does Coach Sullivan impact all those kids and teams?

I disagree completely with HS coaches having the best youth programs. The best youth programs are now AAU ran and do not involve most high school coaches. Covington Catholic has it going on right now. How involved is Coach Ruthatz in elementary aged kids? There is not enough time in the day for him to know all the kids in all the parochial schools. A big public school with success? Cooper?? How many elementary schools feed into Cooper High School? 3 or 4??? How does Coach Sullivan impact all those kids and teams?

The Cov Cath feeder schools do have good youth programs. I'm not sure what kind of influence Coach Ruthsatz could even have on those programs though anyways. But at the public level schools like Cooper and Coach Sullivan could definitely affect the success of the youth programs in Boone Co. you make sure the right coaches are hired, you make sure kids are learning the proper fundamentals, you host coaching clinics for younger coaches, etc. Essentially you make sure the youth programs are successful. Sure Coach Sullivan can't be precisely sure which kids eventually come to Cooper as opposed to the other schools but he can most certainly take part in ensuring that the youth level is well taken care of. The AAU part is certainly valid and those coaches certainly play a huge role as well, but when it comes to the school level it certainly helps the high school maintain success down the line if their youth programs are successful and kids are learning from a young age what is expected of them and how to play the game. I'm not saying the HS coach needs to be at every game from a young age, but forming relationships with the kids, family, and the community at large through the game of basketball is very beneficial to the coach and the players.

No one cares about that. People say they do but let a coach have a team that constantly loses 15 games a year and those life lessons he is teaching get thrown out the window.

 

Yup. I'll tell ya this one is true.

No one cares about that. People say they do but let a coach have a team that constantly loses 15 games a year and those life lessons he is teaching get thrown out the window.

 

It is hard to speak in absolutes about no one caring about this. A lot of this depends on the particular school we are discussing. If I am an administrator at a large catholic school and I know that one of the means that I rely on for attracting students to my school is athletics, there is all the more incentive to draw winning programs. I might have a heck of a nice guy as my head coach but if he strings together a couple of "poor" seasons, I'm going to be quicker to pull the trigger on a change. That is not to say that other schools can simply accept mediocrity, but I'd take a little more time to decide if the down swing is because of poor coaching or because of the cyclical nature of talent that most schools experience.

Edited January 19, 20179 yr by Panther8404
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