December 2, 20169 yr I have read some of these things they say without giving names who are the sources. I know that a lot of stuff may be conspiracy stuff but I really want to see if what they say is going to happen will happen. If it does then will it lead you to maybe believe some things they say as being legit. Read the article, not long. Do you think this is going to happen? Breaking: Dem Operative Confirms Electors' Plot to Sabotage Trump >> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
December 2, 20169 yr I'm not reading Alex Jones' Infowars. However I do believe that the whole recount is just a ploy to further de-legitimize the Trump presidency. Jill Stein has NOTHING to gain and couldn't raise funds during the election yet she was able to raise enough money to fund this? While no one really believes that it will change the outcome it could force a vote in the house of representatives. A Dem strategist was on Fox yesterday. According to him in Wisconsin each county is allowed to determine how they will do the recounts, either by reviewing the machine data or hand counting each vote. Most counties are opting to review the machine data which will only take a couple of days but a couple of heavily Democratic counties have chosen to hand count each ballot. That will not be done in time for the Electoral College vote. If the vote can't be certified Wisconsin's electors won't vote (disenfranchising and entire states votes in the process) and Trump won't have enough Electoral votes to win forcing a vote in the House of Representatives. Trump is still likely to win the Republican controlled House but I'll guarantee that Nancy Pellosi is already directing her flock to make very impassioned floor speeches on the evils of a Trump presidency. I really hope I'm wrong about this but at this point I won't put anything past the Democrats.
December 2, 20169 yr I'm not reading Alex Jones' Infowars. However I do believe that the whole recount is just a ploy to further de-legitimize the Trump presidency. Jill Stein has NOTHING to gain and couldn't raise funds during the election yet she was able to raise enough money to fund this? While no one really believes that it will change the outcome it could force a vote in the house of representatives. A Dem strategist was on Fox yesterday. According to him in Wisconsin each county is allowed to determine how they will do the recounts, either by reviewing the machine data or hand counting each vote. Most counties are opting to review the machine data which will only take a couple of days but a couple of heavily Democratic counties have chosen to hand count each ballot. That will not be done in time for the Electoral College vote. If the vote can't be certified Wisconsin's electors won't vote (disenfranchising and entire states votes in the process) and Trump won't have enough Electoral votes to win forcing a vote in the House of Representatives. Trump is still likely to win the Republican controlled House but I'll guarantee that Nancy Pellosi is already directing her flock to make very impassioned floor speeches on the evils of a Trump presidency. I really hope I'm wrong about this but at this point I won't put anything past the Democrats. Same here. Not gonna give his site a single hit. The guy is as whacked out as anyone out there (and I get that from left and right alike). Conspiracy theorist click-bait.
December 2, 20169 yr Author Same here. Not gonna give his site a single hit. The guy is as whacked out as anyone out there (and I get that from left and right alike). Conspiracy theorist click-bait. I'm not reading Alex Jones' Infowars. However I do believe that the whole recount is just a ploy to further de-legitimize the Trump presidency. Jill Stein has NOTHING to gain and couldn't raise funds during the election yet she was able to raise enough money to fund this? While no one really believes that it will change the outcome it could force a vote in the house of representatives. A Dem strategist was on Fox yesterday. According to him in Wisconsin each county is allowed to determine how they will do the recounts, either by reviewing the machine data or hand counting each vote. Most counties are opting to review the machine data which will only take a couple of days but a couple of heavily Democratic counties have chosen to hand count each ballot. That will not be done in time for the Electoral College vote. If the vote can't be certified Wisconsin's electors won't vote (disenfranchising and entire states votes in the process) and Trump won't have enough Electoral votes to win forcing a vote in the House of Representatives. Trump is still likely to win the Republican controlled House but I'll guarantee that Nancy Pellosi is already directing her flock to make very impassioned floor speeches on the evils of a Trump presidency. I really hope I'm wrong about this but at this point I won't put anything past the Democrats. Its not about the vote recount. Its about convincing the people who vote for the elect college to not give Trump the vote.
December 2, 20169 yr Author Well here you go then. Polly Baca (D) is a former state senator from Colorado. Levi Guerra is a Democrat elector from Washington state, who will be casting her vote for an alternative Republican candidate in the December 19 Electoral College This presidential elector will vote her conscience on December 19 | TheHill
December 2, 20169 yr Doesn't matter what it's about; I'm not gonna put money in that guy's pockets. Simple as that.
December 2, 20169 yr Author Doesn't matter what it's about; I'm not gonna put money in that guy's pockets. Simple as that. Well read the other link, has nothing to do with InfoWars.
December 2, 20169 yr I didn't know that the term was "faithless elector". Here's some history. Faithless elector - Wikipedia
December 2, 20169 yr Author So my whole point is this. Regardless if you give the guy the time or click, he may be right and be reporting news that for some reason no other main outlet will. Even Fox News.
December 2, 20169 yr The states colored red have laws against faithless electors, according to Wiki. Mostly small fines or getting barred from serving as an elector again. I think Michigan might be the only state that will replace a faithless elector. This sort of thing comes up every election and it's incredibly unlikely 30+ electors switch their vote. But, I would find it such a delicious irony if this pointlessly undemocratic institution rejected Trump.
December 2, 20169 yr Its not about the vote recount. Its about convincing the people who vote for the elect college to not give Trump the vote. If Trump won a state, the electors are chosen by the GOP for that state. If an elector defects, then the Republican Party has only itself to blame for their choice of elector.
December 2, 20169 yr If Trump won a state, the electors are chosen by the GOP for that state. If an elector defects, then the Republican Party has only itself to blame for their choice of elector. Won't be the first time this year that the Republican party did not support it's own.
December 2, 20169 yr Mostly small fines or getting barred from serving as an elector again. I think Michigan might be the only state that will replace a faithless elector. This sort of thing comes up every election and it's incredibly unlikely 30+ electors switch their vote. But, I would find it such a delicious irony if this pointlessly undemocratic institution rejected Trump. The mythical Faithless elector is fully within the founding father's wishes. I hope it happens. TBH isn't the EC supposed to protect us from a populist candidate unqualified to be president ? It's time to ROLL EC: Do your job! :taz:
December 2, 20169 yr Amusing to listen to you guys ring your hands over Infowars. Some of our so-called "well respected" BGP members have posted a few false news stories, and I have even seen our BGP resident wizards of smart post "news" from Rawstory......now that's a reputable website! LOL!!
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