Who cries about the death penalty? I certainly don't... I'm 100% in favor of the death penalty...

 

But you are OK with the murder of babies daily?

But you are OK with the murder of babies daily?

 

Well you can't murder something that isn't born yet, IMO. So I don't see abortion as murder.

Should it?

 

As far as I am concerned yes. I personally think it is murder when it stops a beating heart.

Well you can't murder something that isn't born yet, IMO. So I don't see abortion as murder.

 

So how does a person get charged with 2 murders when a woman and her unborn child are killed.

 

Tevin Vann is accused of murdering 21-year-old Ashley Ann McLean of Lillington and her unborn child.

 

He faces two counts of first-degree murder and is being held without bond.

Man charged in murder of Lillington woman, unborn child at NC hotel | WNCN

So how does a person get charged with 2 murders when a woman and her unborn child are killed.

 

Tevin Vann is accused of murdering 21-year-old Ashley Ann McLean of Lillington and her unborn child.

 

He faces two counts of first-degree murder and is being held without bond.

Man charged in murder of Lillington woman, unborn child at NC hotel | WNCN

 

Because apparently in those places it's considered murder. Seems pretty simple to me.

 

I said in MY opinion.

So how does a person get charged with 2 murders when a woman and her unborn child are killed.

 

Tevin Vann is accused of murdering 21-year-old Ashley Ann McLean of Lillington and her unborn child.

 

He faces two counts of first-degree murder and is being held without bond.

Man charged in murder of Lillington woman, unborn child at NC hotel | WNCN

 

State Homicide Laws That Recognize Unborn Victims | National Right to Life

My whole point is that IMO I think the dad should have a say if he really wants the kid. I dont care if he is carrying the baby or not. IMO its still part of him.

My whole point is that IMO I think the dad should have a say if he really wants the kid. I dont care if he is carrying the baby or not. IMO its still part of him.

 

What if he doesn't want the kid. Do you think he should be forced to pay child support?

Well you can't murder something that isn't born yet, IMO. So I don't see abortion as murder.

 

There lies the fundamental disagreement. If it has a heartbeat, it is a life.

 

IMO to argue otherwise is denying the obvious.

What if he doesn't want the kid. Do you think he should be forced to pay child support?

 

UH, Yeah. Its his kid, he should help in the cost of his having fun.

There lies the fundamental disagreement. If it has a heartbeat, it is a life.

 

IMO to argue otherwise is denying the obvious.

 

Can a fetus at the earliest stages of a heartbeat survive on its own outside the mother?

Can a fetus at the earliest stages of a heartbeat survive on its own outside the mother?

 

Is a being living if it has a heartbeat?

Is a being living if it has a heartbeat?

 

Not if it is in a womb and can't survive on it's own.

Not if it is in a womb and can't survive on it's own.

 

As I said before, we fundamentally disagree. You won't change my mind, nor I yours.

 

It's amazing to me all the people for abortion have the same heartbeat they are so willing to see snuffed out.

As I said before, we fundamentally disagree. You won't change my mind, nor I yours.

 

It's amazing to me all the people for abortion have the same heartbeat they are so willing to see snuffed out.

 

We do disagree, and I wasn't trying to change your mind. I was just telling you my opinion on the matter.

 

And to say people are "for abortion" is trying to paint the picture that we encourage abortions, which is far from the case. We simply believe women should have the choice to do so.

 

What's really funny is men trying to legislate what women do with their bodies.