October 12, 20169 yr Doesn't logic dictate that an organization made up of individuals who have left-leaning (or in the case of Fox News, right-leaning) views in their own personal lives will, whether intentionally or not, have that same bias come through?
October 12, 20169 yr I hear you, but who says the media is "supposed" to be neutral? That's not legislated (it shouldn't be IMO), there is no governing factor at all when dealing with the media. If you don't like what's on one station, change the channel. Every media outlet will have some sort of slant, and if you look hard enough you can find an outlet that will "support" pretty much any idea you can think of. In a perfect world, all media would be neutral. But in every other aspect of life, who is 100% truly neutral? We all at least lean one way or another on most issues. Why would the media be different? Journalistic integrity seems to be a thing of the past. "The Society declares these four principles as the foundation of ethical journalism and encourages their use in its practice by all people in all media" SPJ Code of Ethics | Society of Professional Journalists | Improving and protecting journalism since 1909
October 12, 20169 yr Doesn't logic dictate that an organization made up of individuals who have left-leaning (or in the case of Fox News, right-leaning) views in their own personal lives will, whether intentionally or not, have that same bias come through? Logic is frowned upon here.
October 12, 20169 yr Journalistic integrity seems to be a thing of the past. "The Society declares these four principles as the foundation of ethical journalism and encourages their use in its practice by all people in all media" SPJ Code of Ethics | Society of Professional Journalists | Improving and protecting journalism since 1909 Hey, you're not going to get a debate from me on that. People write what gets clicks, on BOTH sides of every topic. Pretending that media outlets shouldn't have a slant is just naive. We all know better.
October 12, 20169 yr Doesn't logic dictate that an organization made up of individuals who have left-leaning (or in the case of Fox News, right-leaning) views in their own personal lives will, whether intentionally or not, have that same bias come through? As journalists, it is supposed to be their responsibility to navigate their biases and produce journalism in a fair and accurate manner. Also, to "– Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering information unless traditional, open methods will not yield information vital to the public."
October 12, 20169 yr As journalists, it is supposed to be their responsibility to navigate their biases and produce journalism in a fair and accurate manner. Also, to "– Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering information unless traditional, open methods will not yield information vital to the public." It's impossible to do. Human nature will not allow us to completely ignore our own biases. We can try as hard as we possibly can, but it'll never happen. We can't completely suppress our personal biases.
October 12, 20169 yr Sure do. Hellcats are you a defense lawyer in real life? If not you missed your calling. Nope. I wish I had that paycheck though :banana:. In all seriousness, it's hard to take the lame stream news media is crooked argument when someone uses info from any of those sites to back up their argument. They are blatantly misleading a good portion of the time. We have example threads on this board right now.
October 12, 20169 yr It's impossible to do. Human nature will not allow us to completely ignore our own biases. We can try as hard as we possibly can, but it'll never happen. We can't completely suppress our personal biases. I disagree.
October 12, 20169 yr Nope. I wish I had that paycheck though :banana:. In all seriousness, it's hard to take the lame stream news media is crooked argument when someone uses info from any of those sites to back up their argument. They are blatantly misleading a good portion of the time. We have example threads on this board right now. I have not used CNN one time that I can remember. Do you think media is crooked? Thats a yes or no answer Hellcats.
October 12, 20169 yr I have not used CNN one time that I can remember. Do you think media is crooked? Thats a yes or no answer Hellcats. Crooked...no. Biased, yes. It's why we have to use other sources to question their reporting. I think part of the problem that the right has with the news outlets these days is they are reporting all negative Trump stories. The right asks why aren't we reporting negative Hillary stories? The simple answer is Donald does something incendiary everyday. HRC does not. When we need a new story for 24 hour news he gives them one. Live by the sword die by the sword.
October 12, 20169 yr Define crooked? If you simply mean biased, yes. Intentionally misleading people to believing a certain political agenda. Using means to obtain information that subvert the code of ethics they they are expected to follow. Refusing to publish stories at the request of a campaign. "Act Independently The highest and primary obligation of ethical journalism is to serve the public. Journalists should: – Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose unavoidable conflicts. – Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment, and avoid political and other outside activities that may compromise integrity or impartiality, or may damage credibility. – Be wary of sources offering information for favors or money; do not pay for access to news. Identify content provided by outside sources, whether paid or not. – Deny favored treatment to advertisers, donors or any other special interests, and resist internal and external pressure to influence coverage. – Distinguish news from advertising and shun hybrids that blur the lines between the two. Prominently label sponsored content. " I really think you should take a look at the link I posted.
October 12, 20169 yr I really think you should take a look at the link I posted. Questions about the SPJ... Who are they? How was it established? Are journalists certified through the SPJ?
October 12, 20169 yr I do think moderators need to be far more neutral than the two were at the 2nd Debate. That's the only time I truly believe a media member should be unbiased.
October 12, 20169 yr The independent press is far from independent when you look at married power couples in the Beltway. A snapshot of some of the key married power couples - this is a bit dated. An single story that makes note of some of the relationships and friendship between the political function and 'independent' media. Obamas Dine at CNN Exec's House | The Weekly Standard President Obama, Michelle Obama, and Malia Obama are dining at the home of CNN executive Virginia Moseley tonight, according to the White House pool report. Moseley's husband is Thomas Nides, a former (and probably future) aide to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Nides is in the graphic above. Its interesting that his Wiki page makes no mention of ever working for HRC. Thomas R. Nides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A candidate page with similar information as the graphic above. Government & Media Connection BTW, Susan Rice (of Benghazi fame) is also the daughter of a former Fed chairman. You can also extend some of these interesting relationships into the banking and Federal Reserve world and see more interesting hook ups. Example - Andrea Mitchell and Alan Greenspan.
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