Could not care less as long as he did it legally.

 

Exactly. For the life of me I don't understand how this is an issue.

How many of the R candidates could have had a legit chance of beating HRC?

 

Is there anyone in America Clinton could beat other than Trump? Serious question.

Is there anyone in America Clinton could beat other than Trump? Serious question.

 

Any of the R possibilities other than Trump would have won. I have no doubt in my mind.

Any of the R possibilities other than Trump would have won. I have no doubt in my mind.

 

Nuts...

Hellcats you expect me to take this guys unbiased take on the debate? Have you read this unbiased guys twitter? What is his background to break this down for me? Vox? Really?

 

Alvin Chang (@alv9n) | Twitter

 

JJ, I don't expect you to like anything that doesn't come from Hannity or Giuliani's mouth at this point.

 

I was just giving you cred for that debate strategy. I wasn't aiming the article at you.

Any of the R possibilities other than Trump would have won. I have no doubt in my mind.

 

Cruz. I don't think Cruz would have beaten her.

 

I will say this. If any other candidate would have been leading in the primary Bernie may have won the nomination.

JJ, I don't expect you to like anything that doesn't come from Hannity or Giuliani's mouth at this point.

 

I was just giving you cred for that debate strategy. I wasn't aiming the article at you.

 

Hellcats I dont believe them either. Truthfully like I posted in another thread I dont believe anyone now. I really dont. But that guys Twitter feed tips him off. Look at the video I posted of the CNN reporter coaching that lady. Thats why I dont believe any of them.

 

And thanks for the props. Trump had to come out swinging or it was over.

If I were scoring...Clinton won the first debate and Trump won the second.

 

Who will take the rubber match?

I have to admit I am surprised all the polls are saying Hillary won this debate. I would call it a draw and if I had to choose, slight edge to Trump. Once Trump waded through the defense of being a locker room guy, I thought Trump got back to the sometimes entertaining, attacking person we all saw in the primaries. He got in some good points. He played well to his base. He did not make any major mistakes that he will have to defend for the next week. And I thought Hillary played it a little too safe staying focused on not making any mistakes that would hurt her momentum. That strategy gave Trump more leeway in his attacks and he took advantage of the opportunity. Still, the polls say Hillary won.

 

That is very bad for Trump. It tells me that Trump has lost those independents he needs to win. They have moved to Hillary. Trump pulled out all the stops and it looks like he didn't stop the momentum. If he has anything else in his bag of tricks, he better get it out there now. The closer it gets to election day, the more those undecided and independents will go to Hillary because people like voting for the winner. The more it looks like Hillary has this won, the more difficult it gets for Trump to have any chance. He either has to release or hope for some major negative story on Hillary to come out.

 

Also, it has to be about Hillary. All this stuff on Bill Clinton has zero impact. I am amazed the Republicans spend so much time and energy on Bill Clinton. Everything out there has been known since Bill Clinton ran for President and he got elected twice. If these Bill stories didn't prevent Bill from getting elected twice, why in the world do Republicans think they will impact his wife?

What polls say Hillary won?

What polls say Hillary won?

 

I have seen and heard results from about three different polls and they all say Hillary won. Have you seen or heard of a poll that says Trump won?

Side note ... the Trump microphone sniffing total was 93 times. He needs to bring his own microphone to the next debate.

Also, I mentioned this earlier in the thread but will post again since we are talking poll results and who won. The most shocking result was CNN's focus group of undecided Ohio voters. These are voters who said they were still undecided prior to the debate. When asked after the debate who won, these are the results (rough estimate):

 

Hillary won ...... 15

Draw/Tie ......... 10

Trump Won ...... 01

 

That is not a typo. Only one person raised their hand and said Trump won.

I have seen and heard results from about three different polls and they all say Hillary won. Have you seen or heard of a poll that says Trump won?

 

I don't have any idea how to even find polls

I don't have any idea how to even find polls

 

Then I am glad I was able to share that info with you.