Thanks.:thumb:

 

I'm just playing around.

 

Its a pretty serious problem and people are looking for answers. How does making fun of it help any of them?

Its a pretty serious problem and people are looking for answers. How does making fun of it help any of them?

Not playing around and making fun of the problem just poking some honestly good natured fun at Matilda. If you go back and read her first post you will see that she at no time mentions that Paintsville has had a problem with staph infection, just Johnson Central. She does however mention later on when reminded that, yes, Paintsville also may have some problems. But we all see who is getting the possible blame on a problem that has reached nationwide attention. I just took the initial post as a Paintsville supporter jab at the county schools. Maybe I took that wrong, but I doubt it. Just blaming the root of the problem on the JC practice field is a little far fetched when you consider that the same flood waters often cover the Little League field at Paintsville where there has been no reported problems or at the Johnson Central Middle school field, the high school baseball field, the softball field, the Cal Ripken complex, and many other areas of Johnson County that are under water at the exact same time , by the exact same creek, and in most cases on facilities that lie adjacently to the practice field. What about the soccer teams, what about the golfers that use the practice field and the adjacent baseball fields to hit golf balls on and to conduct soccer practice on. These fields are all under water at the exact same time. Why no reported problems with any of these other programs. I own a farm that Paint Creek crosses where it has been designated a trophy trout stream. I along with countless hundreds of other people wade fish this creek. Why no reported outbreaks among fishermen. I pretty well consider myself an expert when it comes to playing around in Paint Creek and the health problems it has caused with myself and those of my family and friends that spend countless hours enjoying the fishing.(Which is zilch). What about all the people that swim, fish,and ski on Paintsville Lake which is approximately 2 miles upstream from Johnson Central. How come you dont hear of this problem with epidemic proportions with these people.

 

This is where I am coming from Watusi. I guess you would have to be more familiar with the lay of Paint Creek and the way just about all of the water drainage in Johnson County is directed in this water basin to know where I am coming from.Again I was just injected a common sense aproach as to where it is highly doubtful that Paint Creek is the national culprit to the origin of the staph infection problem plauging football teams.

As a former CNA, I can tell you Staph Infections are a really bad thing, I've seen Co-Workers come down with it because A)They didn't follow the infection controls as instructed like washing their hands after doing a procedure, or wear gloves, we also had hand cleansing solution to use after caring for a pt. B)They got it from someone or somewhere else, like doorknobs, public restrooms, etc....

did any of the mentioned schools use the crumb rubber on their fields? I ask this because a doctor mentioned to me how many "rug burns" have gotten infected. I was wondering if there was a correlation between the popular use of the crumb rubber and creating a breeding ground for the bacteria. Probably not but I cannot remember this many cases before and I know many schools used the rubber in the past couple years especially with the artificial turf. Like I said they probably are not related but it doesn't hurt to ask

did any of the mentioned schools use the crumb rubber on their fields? I ask this because a doctor mentioned to me how many "rug burns" have gotten infected. I was wondering if there was a correlation between the popular use of the crumb rubber and creating a breeding ground for the bacteria. Probably not but I cannot remember this many cases before and I know many schools used the rubber in the past couple years especially with the artificial turf. Like I said they probably are not related but it doesn't hurt to ask

I think it might be worth studying to see if the cases match the locations of the artificial surface.

Not playing around and making fun of the problem just poking some honestly good natured fun at Matilda. If you go back and read her first post you will see that she at no time mentions that Paintsville has had a problem with staph infection, just Johnson Central. She does however mention later on when reminded that, yes, Paintsville also may have some problems. But we all see who is getting the possible blame on a problem that has reached nationwide attention. I just took the initial post as a Paintsville supporter jab at the county schools. Maybe I took that wrong, but I doubt it. Just blaming the root of the problem on the JC practice field is a little far fetched when you consider that the same flood waters often cover the Little League field at Paintsville where there has been no reported problems or at the Johnson Central Middle school field, the high school baseball field, the softball field, the Cal Ripken complex, and many other areas of Johnson County that are under water at the exact same time , by the exact same creek, and in most cases on facilities that lie adjacently to the practice field. What about the soccer teams, what about the golfers that use the practice field and the adjacent baseball fields to hit golf balls on and to conduct soccer practice on. These fields are all under water at the exact same time. Why no reported problems with any of these other programs. I own a farm that Paint Creek crosses where it has been designated a trophy trout stream. I along with countless hundreds of other people wade fish this creek. Why no reported outbreaks among fishermen. I pretty well consider myself an expert when it comes to playing around in Paint Creek and the health problems it has caused with myself and those of my family and friends that spend countless hours enjoying the fishing.(Which is zilch). What about all the people that swim, fish,and ski on Paintsville Lake which is approximately 2 miles upstream from Johnson Central. How come you dont hear of this problem with epidemic proportions with these people.

 

This is where I am coming from Watusi. I guess you would have to be more familiar with the lay of Paint Creek and the way just about all of the water drainage in Johnson County is directed in this water basin to know where I am coming from.Again I was just injected a common sense aproach as to where it is highly doubtful that Paint Creek is the national culprit to the origin of the staph infection problem plauging football teams.

I was most certainly not taking a jab at anyone. I am here for OUR children reguardless of their school! I never said that it was the cause of the nation wide spread. Like i said I am concerned for OUR children first.

did any of the mentioned schools use the crumb rubber on their fields? I ask this because a doctor mentioned to me how many "rug burns" have gotten infected. I was wondering if there was a correlation between the popular use of the crumb rubber and creating a breeding ground for the bacteria. Probably not but I cannot remember this many cases before and I know many schools used the rubber in the past couple years especially with the artificial turf. Like I said they probably are not related but it doesn't hurt to ask

 

The most likely relation crumb rubber has...it, by nature, is more likely to cause tears in the skin than a purely natural surface.

 

A break in the skin gives staph (which is naturally present on everyone's skin surface, btw) an entry point.

Doesn't the rubber also raise the ground temperature? maybe the increased temp. and length of time the temp is raised leads to a more bacteria friendly environment? consequently, more bacteria and a higher probability of contracting an infection? Just a thought

I was most certainly not taking a jab at anyone. I am here for OUR children reguardless of their school! I never said that it was the cause of the nation wide spread. Like i said I am concerned for OUR children first.

That's fine , as I would hope that you WOULD be concerned for all of the kids. I just noticed in your original post you were quick to point out that Johnson Central had had a problem, but you were sure not indicating that Paintsville had experienced the exact same problem as well. Just seemed a little odd to me that you would not point out an issue that your own school had experienced (as I would think that would be an isssue that would seem to be the freshest on one's mind, and closest to one's heart) , but were quick to point out the issue with your school's rival, and then place the blame on their facilities as the focal point of such a wide scale and wide ranging problem. Excuse me if I misinterpreted.:thumb:

Let me rephrase my comment.

 

This thread needs to stay on topic without drifting off into personal jabs and accusations.

These bacteria are naturally present on everyone's skin and often in the blood of infected carriers. They don't come from any kind of dirt or creek water.

 

MRSA is the bacterium that is causing the great majority of these abscesses; there has been a huge upswing of community-acquired MRSA over the last few years, likely from the overuse of antibiotics and germicidal products creating resistance. I personally see several patients per week coming in for "insect bites" that are actually large MRSA-containing abscesses.

 

Keflex, which is the first antibiotic most docs prescribe for cellulitis, won't work on these infections. First-line drugs are Bactrim and clindamycin, and in my practice, I will often combine the two for double-coverage for what appear to be serious MRSA infections.

 

It is quite contagious. The only solution is immaculate hygiene - uniform washing every day, wiping down the locker room, covering open sores.

 

It's a problem that's only going to get worse until coaches, trainers, and, most importantly, players take increasing responsibility for infection control in their locker rooms and on their practice fields. You can't always stop it, but you can take measures to prevent its spread.

Thanks black eagle. In your opinion is it serious enough that khsaa should mandate the measures you call for? Should school districts be required to provide uniform washing? There are a number of athletes in our area where daily clothes washing is not realistic. i.e. they must go to a laudromat or the parents will only wash weekly. I don't mean to sound paranoid but there have been some serious cases locally and I have a son that plays.

I was told today that KWC has 4 or 5 players with MSRA staph. Then I found out that OHS has a player with it. OHS played at KWC last Friday. The crumb rubber may play a part in it. I don't know. I wonder if Catholic has anyone with it.

Thanks black eagle. In your opinion is it serious enough that khsaa should mandate the measures you call for? Should school districts be required to provide uniform washing? There are a number of athletes in our area where daily clothes washing is not realistic. i.e. they must go to a laudromat or the parents will only wash weekly. I don't mean to sound paranoid but there have been some serious cases locally and I have a son that plays.

 

Honestly, I think it is becoming a serious enough problem that mandatory measures will need to be entertained. I wonder if perhaps the local health departments in each county could become involved and provide direction and assistance the same way in the locker rooms that they do in the school cafeterias. Our district would likely have the same problem with lack of access to laundry facilities for a lot of players' families, as would a lot of districts in both rural and urban areas. I don't think it's paranoia at all; I think it's probably one of the most significant problems we're facing in high school athletics currently. There are probably as many players sitting out games this week for infections like this in Kentucky as there are for any other kind of injury.

This site can be a good resource. The info box at the end of the article should be cut out and posted in the locker rooms. Hopefully this link came through:

 

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5233a4.htm