Show me a police K-9 that can do anything without a command from its handler and I might believe you.

 

These are animals doing what they are told to do, which is admirable. These aren't police officers looking for fingerprints, investigating a robbery, or using any higher thought. They are trained to be used by officers of the law.

 

I would certainly agree that police K-9 training makes a dog of more value than my neighbor's wiener dog, but that does not equal to a human life.

 

Dont all humans that work do what their bosses tell them to do? How is that any different?

They aren't objects at all.

 

They also are not humans, and shouldn't be held on the same pedestal as a human life.

 

 

This is a mild tangent, but considering how prevalent it is, is human life in general really all that special?

17-year-old boy has been sentenced to 23 years behind bars for fatally shooting a retired police dog during a burglary

Man sentenced to 20 years for killing police dog

 

...absolutely crazy.

 

That first headline is an absolute simplification. The teen was convicted of animal cruelty, armed burglary, and shooting into an occupied building. He wasn't given that sentence because he shot a retired police dog.

 

The second link doesn't have enough info to deduce much of anything.

You know what humans aren't? Special. Same decaying matter as everything else on this godforsaken planet.

 

Tell some dogs and cats to build a power plant on a river and construct a town around it. Let's see how that works out.

 

Delete...forgot the new rules.

Tell some dogs and cats to build a power plant on a river and construct a town around it. Let's see how that works out.

 

 

As before if you round up a random group of people I would say it would go about as well, just be far less adorable.

 

Fact of the matter is that humans are crap and this year (especially this election cycle) had made me realize that the villians in movies who want to destroy the planet may not be wrong. That isn't an indictment on you, just more an observation of how much we as a species are terrible and justify it to ourselves via self denial, religion, music, drugs, alcohol, politics, economics, etc. :taz:

Fact of the matter is that humans are crap and this year (especially this election cycle) had made me realize that the villians in movies who want to destroy the planet may not be wrong. That isn't an indictment on you, just more an observation of how much we as a species are terrible and justify it to ourselves via self denial, religion, music, drugs, alcohol, politics, economics, etc. :taz:

 

Geez, you didn't have to trash alcohol.

Yes. That's not a stranger though.

 

Correct. However, I was sensing some thinking you equate human life with a dog's life. I figured that example would clarify it.

Geez, you didn't have to trash alcohol.

 

 

:dancingpa

 

Got me there.

This is a mild tangent, but considering how prevalent it is, is human life in general really all that special?

 

Human life will ALWAYS be more "special" than the lives of animals. Always.

Yes. That's not a stranger though.

 

So you'd save your dogs life over a stranger?

Human life will ALWAYS be more "special" than the lives of animals. Always.

 

Humans are animals though.

So you'd save your dogs life over a stranger?

 

Yes.

Appreciate it, gentlemen.

 

A few scenarios to ponder:

 

1. Most agree that if a suspect pulls a weapon on an officer that the officer has the right to respond with deadly force. What if a police dog is chasing a suspect who is running and the suspect pulls out a gun to turn and shoot the dog? Does that give the right to the officer to use deadly force?

 

2. We often see cases where a suspect was shot during a fight/struggle with an officer. Most believe the officer has a right to use deadly force in cases where the suspect is fighting back and trying to hurt the officer. What if the police dog catches the suspect who is running and the suspect starts punching the dog? Can the officer use deadly force?

 

3. We all agree that a suspect who murders an officer goes either to prison for life or to the chair. Do we agree that a suspect who kills a police dog gets the same penalty?

 

1. Yes, they can shoot in defense of their K9 if it is being threatened with lethal force.

 

2. If punching only, then no, lethal force probably not justified...but if a knife is being used I'd say yes.

 

3. No, not DP or "Life"...but I have no problem with a significant sentence for those that murder a Police K9.

Human life will ALWAYS be more "special" than the lives of animals. Always.

 

Meh :idunno:

Yes.

 

Note to self: Don't die around UKMF.

 

:lol2: