August 21, 200620 yr Author Dont get me wrong private schoolers should defend their schools and their choices. I think private schools are the way to go. I myself breifly attended a private school. But private schools should not pretend that their are not athletes coming to their school just to play sports. I have seen it personally.
August 21, 200620 yr Author First, you toss Male in with X and T. Male is a public school believe it or not. Second, how is it an advantage when a kid has to pay $8,000 dollars a year and provide his own transportation to and from school? Some private schools offer scholarships or other financial aid for some students. and if a family can afford to pay 8,000 ayear they can afford transportation. Whats the name of that documentary of the two basketball players from chicago that went to St. joesephs but one was kicked out and the other given financial assistants? thats what I'm talking about.
August 21, 200620 yr Some private schools offer scholarships or other financial aid for some students. and if a family can afford to pay 8,000 ayear they can afford transportation. Yes! I drove my $300 1985 Dodge Omni 25 miles to school everyday because my Mercedes was in the shop. :laugh:
August 21, 200620 yr Some private schools offer scholarships or other financial aid for some students. and if a family can afford to pay 8,000 ayear they can afford transportation. Whats the name of that documentary of the two basketball players from chicago that went to St. joesephs but one was kicked out and the other given financial assistants? thats what I'm talking about. Assuming you are right, and assuming that a private school paid the entire tuition of an athlete, this only puts the athlete at the private school on a level playing field with an athlete at a public school. They would each pay $0 tuition. So where would there be any advantage for the private school?
August 21, 200620 yr First, you toss Male in with X and T. Male is a public school believe it or not. Second, how is it an advantage when a kid has to pay $8,000 dollars a year and provide his own transportation to and from school? Brossart students ride Campbell County School busses.
August 21, 200620 yr I don't think that most private school supporters deny there are some advantages. There are some disadvantages as well. The point is that you cannot make blanket statements like you have made. Great, great post.:thumb:
August 21, 200620 yr Author Assuming you are right, and assuming that a private school paid the entire tuition of an athlete, this only puts the athlete at the private school on a level playing field with an athlete at a public school. They would each pay $0 tuition. So where would there be any advantage for the private school? When I speak of a scholarship athlete or for the most part a private school athlete I mean that he/she is a talented athlete. Whereas public schools dont have as much talent. Just wondering, how many D-1 players come from public vs. private schools in KY? And by the way no one has answered me as to why schools have had such long runs as state champs.
August 22, 200620 yr Author I really didnt think I would get such responses from the private schoolers. I am totally for the private schools and against the 6 classes in football. In my original post maybe I should have said unfair advantage. Because that is the only problem I see, where private schools can become talent pools. But I say if you want to be the best beat the best. Even if the best is an all-star team. Does anybody know what I'm trying to say?!? Somebody show me love!
August 22, 200620 yr Whereas public schools dont have as much talent. Just wondering, how many D-1 players come from public vs. private schools in KY? And by the way no one has answered me as to why schools have had such long runs as state champs.I can name at least one public school that has had 17 D-1 signees since 1998. For example, here is a list of D-1 recruits over the past five years in NKY As you can see, fourteen of the sixteen are from public schools: CLASS OF 2006Player High School College Drew Ellison Covington Catholic Air Force* Ben Guidugli Highlands Cincinnati Tyler Madlom Ryle Army* CLASS OF 2005 Player High School College Mike Donoghue Covington Catholic Louisville Mike Mitchell Highlands Ohio Jordan Nevels Highlands Kentucky CLASS OF 2004 Player High School College Scott Kuhn Conner Louisville Sean Sester Highlands Purdue CLASS OF 2003 Player High School College Jeremy Bolton Conner UC Brandent Englemon Holmes Michigan Doug Jones Dixie Heights Cincinnati CLASS OF 2002 Player High School College Joe Brady Beechwood Kentucky Matt Coppage Simon Kenton Ohio James Jackson Holmes Louisville Jeff Reinstatler Highlands Cincinnati Rob Smith Highlands Tennessee The public/private issue had no bearing on school's having long runs as state champs.
August 22, 200620 yr Yes! I drove my $300 1985 Dodge Omni 25 miles to school everyday because my Mercedes was in the shop. :laugh: I agree, my 1989 Ford Ranger was a sight for sore eyes. It had an AM only radio. So the radio was never on. I eventually put a basketball in the tailgate so that when it abnged against the end of the tailgate it provided some nice bass. It was a good ole rust bucket.
August 22, 200620 yr When I speak of a scholarship athlete or for the most part a private school athlete I mean that he/she is a talented athlete. Whereas public schools dont have as much talent. Just wondering, how many D-1 players come from public vs. private schools in KY? And by the way no one has answered me as to why schools have had such long runs as state champs. 1.So do I understand that you agree with me that even if a private school pays an athlete's tuition, the player gets nothing he wouldn't get at a public school since there is no tuition at public schools? 2. Don't know the numbers, but one poster from Trinity said about 3 or 4 from there over the last 3 years, two of which were state titles. 3.I don't know why schools have had such long runs as state champs. Trinity and Highlands have 16 each. Other multiple winners include St. X, Beechwood, Boyle County, Danville, Belfry, Mayfield. Only St. X and Trinity are private.
August 22, 200620 yr When I speak of a scholarship athlete or for the most part a private school athlete I mean that he/she is a talented athlete. Whereas public schools dont have as much talent. Just wondering, how many D-1 players come from public vs. private schools in KY? And by the way no one has answered me as to why schools have had such long runs as state champs. St.X won the title in 2004 without a single D-1 scholarship player.
August 23, 200620 yr I really didnt think I would get such responses from the private schoolers. I am totally for the private schools and against the 6 classes in football. In my original post maybe I should have said unfair advantage. Because that is the only problem I see, where private schools can become talent pools. But I say if you want to be the best beat the best. Even if the best is an all-star team. Does anybody know what I'm trying to say?!? Somebody show me love! You are among the minority on this site my friend....
August 23, 200620 yr Private schools were established to provide any educational opportunities. Private, religious education is a whole lot older, both in the United States and worldwide, than is public education. As for the Catholic schools specifically, if our forebears could look and see what has happened to the school system they've established, I think they would be shocked by the progress. Catholic parish schools and high schools were started in communities of Irish, German and Italian Catholic immigrants. The fact that they have become so great is a testament to the efforts put forth by the Catholic educators of 100 years ago. The most upwardly-mobile social group in the 20th century was Roman Catholics. Much of that has to do with the efforts of these community schools. Not bad only 130 years removed from "No Irish Need Apply" and only 80 years removed from the destruction of Al Smith's presidential campaign by the KKK. jwah00, you named Male in your post. That sums it up. We need to frame this not as a question of private v. public in totality, but (as so many other posters have said) at least in part as an urban v. rural discussion. You saved me a ton of typing, Getslow! :thumb: I often wonder how many people know the history of education in the US?
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