Across the US I wonder what the total amount of bad debt written off by hospitals for illegal immigrants each year?

 

Who do you think ends up paying for this?

Across the US I wonder what the total amount of bad debt written off by hospitals for illegal immigrants each year?

 

Who do you think ends up paying for this?

 

By the same token what is the amount of bad debt they write off for US citizens by comparison? I'd love to see those numbers compared

Hopefully he helps us stop having to pay for every free loader in America an every illegal immigrant who sneaks into America to have a baby so they can reap the freebies of housing, medical, food, phone, etc.

It's not fair that I have to pay medical and ER bills when an illegal immigrant sneaks into America, has a kid, gets it all paid for by me and you.

Of course that's why they want Dems and not Trump. They know it's a free ride with Dems

 

Across the US I wonder what the total amount of bad debt written off by hospitals for illegal immigrants each year?

 

Who do you think ends up paying for this?

 

By the same token what is the amount of bad debt they write off for US citizens by comparison? I'd love to see those numbers compared

 

This is what is scary about Trump. He gets people riled up about one group and alludes that they are the entire problem. If illegals went away the entire problem would be solved, which is completely wrong. Most of the expense that the common pays lays at the feet of the insurance companies and hospitals themselves.

 

FWIW, Mr. Trump needs to focus on the stagnation of wages in the middle class, but I can't see that happening because he would be at fault since he employs so many people.

By the same token what is the amount of bad debt they write off for US citizens by comparison? I'd love to see those numbers compared

 

I'm sure the US citizen bad debt is higher due to more people.

 

My point is we can't keep adding stress to the infrastructure that makes American go, on the backs of the working class.

 

We clearly have enough freeloaders in this country as it is, why freely allow millions more to keep dipping into a bucket that gets filled by the working class of America.

This is what is scary about Trump. He gets people riled up about one group and alludes that they are the entire problem. If illegals went away the entire problem would be solved, which is completely wrong. Most of the expense that the common pays lays at the feet of the insurance companies and hospitals themselves.

 

FWIW, Mr. Trump needs to focus on the stagnation of wages in the middle class, but I can't see that happening because he would be at fault since he employs so many people.

 

It's not just illegals, the fraud that's happening in this country with in our welfare system is totally out of control, the fraud that's happening in many US government programs is out of control.

 

There has to be ways developed to wean people off of government programs at all levels.

 

What was once very good thought out programs, have grown into monsters were fraud and deception is rampant.

It's not just illegals, the fraud that's happening in this country with in our welfare system is totally out of control, the fraud that's happening in many US government programs is out of control.

 

There has to be ways developed to wean people off of government programs at all levels.

 

What was once very good thought out programs, have grown into monsters were fraud and deception is rampant.

 

I agree but this is the creation of the Rich. Kill the middle class and you get people living in poverty mooching off of the government. These people aren't stupid; they can do math. When govt benefits equal the same as a min wage/ entry level job why would they work? Pride? Pride don't pay the bills.

 

40 years of wage stagnation and outsourcing of entry level jobs gives these people no place to work to make enough money to support their families.

 

We've traded the middle class for a small group of ultra rich over the past half century. So I can't buy into the idea of blaming illegals and the poor. Need to look up to solve the problem not down.

I agree but this is the creation of the Rich. Kill the middle class and you get people living in poverty mooching off of the government. These people aren't stupid; they can do math. When govt benefits equal the same as a min wage/ entry level job why would they work? Pride? Pride don't pay the bills.

 

40 years of wage stagnation and outsourcing of entry level jobs gives these people no place to work to make enough money to support their families.

 

We've traded the middle class for a small group of ultra rich over the past half century. So I can't buy into the idea of blaming illegals and the poor. Need to look up to solve the problem not down.

 

I'm not ready to take money from someone rich so I can do nothing.

 

I agree with your point that Trump should focus "wage stagnation". Bringing back fair wage jobs to the rust belt would go a long way.

 

Years ago all it took was a good war to jumpstart our economy, thats not the case anymore, the economy as we know it today fluctuates more from what happens overseas than does our own country.

I'm not ready to take money from someone rich so I can do nothing.

 

I agree with your point that Trump should focus "wage stagnation". Bringing back fair wage jobs to the rust belt would go a long way.

 

Years ago all it took was a good war to jumpstart our economy, thats not the case anymore, the economy as we know it today fluctuates more from what happens overseas than does our own country.

 

Many have profited directly or indirectly shipping jobs overseas, so it doesn't bother me one bit that they pay a little more to invest in our country. IMO you don't turn around and hand that money out, but take it and use it on our infrastructure.

Many have profited directly or indirectly shipping jobs overseas, so it doesn't bother me one bit that they pay a little more to invest in our country. IMO you don't turn around and hand that money out, but take it and use it on our infrastructure.

 

This is the truth. The current Washington establishment has pandered to the rich to help pad their pockets

 

The tax code either needs to be rewritten or the IRS needs to be expanded where they can begin working on shrinking the current "tax gap" that exists.

By the same token what is the amount of bad debt they write off for US citizens by comparison? I'd love to see those numbers compared

 

The problem is this. If they write off bad debt for USA citizens then they are just that, true US citizens. They have a right by law to be here. Illegals do not share that same right, or do our laws not mean anything? Are we just making the rules up as we go? Do you not see how nuts this statement in its self is?

 

On a side not, I have a friend who is a democrat. I mean a die hard democrat. Never voted a Republican vote in his life. Was raised that way from a child. This stuff going on is making him a Trump man. I can just tell by the way he is talking he thinks America has gone to far. He will vote for Trump. This stuff is scary.

 

The problem is this. If they write off bad debt for USA citizens then they are just that, true US citizens. They have a right by law to be here. Illegals do not share that same right, or do our laws not mean anything? Are we just making the rules up as we go? Do you not see how nuts this statement in its self is?

 

On a side not, I have a friend who is a democrat. I mean a die hard democrat. Never voted a Republican vote in his life. Was raised that way from a child. This stuff going on is making him a Trump man. I can just tell by the way he is talking he thinks America has gone to far. He will vote for Trump. This stuff is scary.

 

 

So an American has more of a right to not pay than a non-American does, is that what you're saying?

So an American has more of a right to not pay and a non-American does, is that what you're saying?

 

No, not exactly. What I am saying is its even nuts for us as a country to be having this talk when we have laws on the book that should have been enforced to stop this and the officials turn their head and do not enforce laws. Our country is in trouble is what I am saying. Nobody has a right to not pay, much less a illegal alien who should not be here to begin with according the current Federal laws. Whats wrong with thinking that we should enforce the laws?

It's not just illegals, the fraud that's happening in this country with in our welfare system is totally out of control, the fraud that's happening in many US government programs is out of control.

 

There has to be ways developed to wean people off of government programs at all levels.

 

What was once very good thought out programs, have grown into monsters were fraud and deception is rampant.

Many of these programs also work great as vote buying mechanisms.

 

No, not exactly. What I am saying is its even nuts for us as a country to be having this talk when we have laws on the book that should have been enforced to stop this and the officials turn their head and do not enforce laws. Our country is in trouble is what I am saying. Nobody has a right to not pay, much less a illegal alien who should not be here to begin with according the current Federal laws. Whats wrong with thinking that we should enforce the laws?

 

I am fine with enforcing the laws as they exist. I personally think that the "build a wall" and "deport em all" is impractical and frankly stupid. Offer guest worker program where we tax them heavily and they can legally work, pay for whatever they are making use of and then we benefit too. Furthermore I like the idea of financial penalties instead of rounding people up and deporting them, offer them a chance to pay up with garnished wages for a certain duration then they can transition into the guest worker program. I know I know "But that's amnesty" you cry! I guess it is in a way, but it is a compromise that is probably the only way to do this without tearing things more apart. The whole "They took our jobs" argument is a bit ridiculous because most Americans won't even work for the wages many of this undocumented/illegals work for anyway. Also we need significant financial or tax penalties on ANYONE employing someone who isn't legally here.

 

I am for enforcing the laws, but I am also for reforming the process of getting here for simply work. Balance and reform, not simple punitive measures.

 

Besides as I have said on numerous occasions if you really want to stop people a wall won't do it, landmines will.

It's not just the illegals free loading, it's whites, blacks, Asians, Muslims.

 

But the Dems are allowing the free loading to pander to getting votes. It's killing America an causing hate.

 

I want change, I had hoped Obama would have kept his word and brought America together but he has divided it to a point I haven't seen