Any comments on today's article?? A coaching carousel?? While this may be true, I'm pumped about all the changes in 10th region basketball. Should make for an exciting season!:banana:

I know I am going to take some heat when I say this but here goes. 10 to 15 years ago coaches took schools and attempted to build programs regardless of talent and stayed with programs through thick and thin. It seems that today the better coaches seem to hop from school to school looking for that talent pool that meets their style hoping for a winner instead of grinding it out and truly building a program. i know the pressures have increased and parody has increased but the days of a solid coach taking a program and sticking it out, doing the right things, garnering support and staying put are over. Administrations have made it to easy to leave, coaches have found it easier to leave than stay and fight and ultimately the schools and kids lose with the carousel. I don't really know who's to blame. Parents,Kids,Administrations,Coaches???? Opinions? Will it ever change? The same thing applies to college ranks as well. Who ends up losing? The young men and women who play there. They are the one s that are forced to change and have no control over what happens. I have found that with the inability in coaches to find teaching jobs in their field has slowed it down some but in the past year the number of coaches leaving schools after only a few years is still increasing and the musical chairs leaves me spinning.

I agree with Safe At Home, in that an inordinate number of coaches seem to be changing jobs this year.

 

On the other hand there are years that there are very few changes. Ultimately it becomes a domino effect. There can be no coaching changes if there are no vacancies and once a couple leave it often spawns a whole series of changes.

 

I don't think that coaches can be blamed for improving their personal situations and wanting to "move up the ladder."

 

Those who stay and "build their programs" normally have roots in that school or the community. Many are family men who are not in a postition to pull up stakes and move their families to new locations at the drop of a hat. Some are happy in the security of knowing that they have a solid, stable program in which to work and have no intentions of trading away that situation.

 

Hopefully, all will settle in and the rash of coaching changes will subside in the future.

I think if a coach is going to attempt to change schools they should have to give up their current job by at least June 15th.This nonsense of leaving a school hanging the middle of July is no good.They should have all coaches hired by July 15th and no letting them leave that close to the start of a new school year.If coaches were made to resign if they wanted to move that would be their choice and be fine.Everyone involved would know where they stand and the school wouldn't have to be wondering all summer long whether they will have to find a new basketball coach at the last minute.

It is a problem, but I am not sure of a solution since teaching contracts run until July 1st. July is a busy month not only for coaches but most of your teachers that are moving to different schools do so as well.

I agree with Safe At Home, in that an inordinate number of coaches seem to be changing jobs this year.

 

On the other hand there are years that there are very few changes. Ultimately it becomes a domino effect. There can be no coaching changes if there are no vacancies and once a couple leave it often spawns a whole series of changes.

 

I don't think that coaches can be blamed for improving their personal situations and wanting to "move up the ladder."

 

Those who stay and "build their programs" normally have roots in that school or the community. Many are family men who are not in a postition to pull up stakes and move their families to new locations at the drop of a hat. Some are happy in the security of knowing that they have a solid, stable program in which to work and have no intentions of trading away that situation.

 

Hopefully, all will settle in and the rash of coaching changes will subside in the future.

 

I totally agree with ya Mustang.

Do other professions not allow people to change jobs to better themselves or their family situations?

As for leaving a school in the middle of July, a school does not have to allow a contracted person to leave their position if they are within 30 days of the first day of school starting. The coaches that left to take new positions as Robert Hammonds did taking the W. Jessamine coaching position, Bracken County did not have to let him out of his contract b/c they were w/in that 30 day period. They chose to and hired a new coach who I am sure was under the same aggreement as Hammonds was w/Bracken County.

 

Nothing wrong w/wanting to improve your lifestlye or better yourself, but the coaching world has changed dramatically. Coaches just don't stay at schools like they use to, plain and simple! Programs don't get built like they used to and that hurts the kids in the long run.

but the coaching world has changed dramatically. Coaches just don't stay at schools like they use to, plain and simple! Programs don't get built like they used to and that hurts the kids in the long run.

 

 

There is not as much patience given to the coach to build programs like in the past either.

Why would have Bracken wanted to keep a person from making more money? It would have looked bad on the school and administration. A coach wanting to move and take a better postition is business, and seem these coaches moved for business and family reasons. Doesnt look like you really know much about coaching anymore cause coaching has changed as has the kids. Seems to me there are alot of good programs out there that have had a few coaching changes- and it looks like Bracken benefited alot from Hammonds being at Bracken, not only in gaining respect but now a bonified program again. As for Biggs , seems Ashland was a great move, and Flynn had built a great program at Ashland. Seems more schools are benifiting from the good coaches cause they all have left programs in great shape that they built so the next coaches and players could benifit.

There is not as much patience given to the coach to build programs like in the past either.

 

While I agree with SafeatHome, Mustang, and others regarding the "coaching carousel" we seem to be experiencing lately; I think Sweet 16 brings up a good point as well. How many administrations, alumni, etc. are giving the coaches the latitude of working through the lean years to build a program?? Is too much expected (demanded) of a new coach to turn a situation around in the first couple years, rather than also taking that long term approach?? How often do we hear coaches leaving successful programs due to parental, alumni, or political pressures??

 

Similar to today's workplace, where quite often we hear CEO's bemoan "the lack of loyalty in workers today"; while they are preparing to lay off employees with 30+ years experience nearing retirement, or shipping their jobs overseas. This may be a two way street, where coaches feel they need to "make it while they can"??

I didn't say Bracken County WOULD want to keep someone from making more money or bettering themselves. I simply said that if they had it would have been their legal right to do so. Maybe some people that post on this site should read the threads a little more carefully before they do so.

 

I know plenty about this wonderful game of basketball and the fact of the matter is coaches don't stay at programs/schools like they used to! Mike Reitz IMO is one of the best coaches in the history of the 10th region and he was at Harrison County, took the job at Pendleton County, and then went to Clark County and this happened all in a two week period, of course he ends up at Campbell County a few years later. So coaches do jump from school to school, I am sure they all have their reasons for doing so and they have the right, but it does happen and it happens all over this state!

I don't have a problem with coaches moving to better their life or coaching situation.The problem I have is there should be a definate time frame when coaches could move.That would take the pressure off the school they leave to find a coach and usually teacher for the vacated job at the last minute before school starts.

I don't have a problem with coaches moving to better their life or coaching situation.The problem I have is there should be a definate time frame when coaches could move.That would take the pressure off the school they leave to find a coach and usually teacher for the vacated job at the last minute before school starts.

 

This whole coaching situation reminds me of a gift exchange game that my family plays are Christmas time called "Steal the gift". One person opens a gift (coach takes a job). The next person that needs a gift can either steal the gift that the previous person got, or open a new one.. and so on. Does anyone else see the resemblance here..... :D

Any comments on today's article?? A coaching carousel?? While this may be true, I'm pumped about all the changes in 10th region basketball. Should make for an exciting season!:banana:

 

What article are you talking about? Do you have a link for the rest of us? Thanks.