The line should stay where it is. This is far from college basketball. No reason to treat it as such. I know kids shooting the three ball better in college than they did in high school. The line is fine. Why are we always looking to punish players who have worked hard to excel? Everyone is dunking! Raise the rims!!!! Everyone is big and fast!!!! Widen the lanes!!!!

 

Why do we always have to make things tougher? Just play the game. It is not an easy game to play. Those that work hard to excel should reap those benefits.

 

This is perfectly said

The game of basketball is changing, teams are becoming less big and physical and moving to smaller and quicker players. Creating a wave of 3 point shooters for the next decade or so.

How about teams are moving to quicker Taller players? How tall in the current NBA guard versus years ago? A 6'8" kid used to only be a big. Now they have the tools to handle the Rock and shoot the 3.

How about teams are moving to quicker Taller players? How tall in the current NBA guard versus years ago? A 6'8" kid used to only be a big. Now they have the tools to handle the Rock and shoot the 3.

 

How many high school teams have a skilled and effective 6'6" guard? 1%?

 

The game doesn't need changed for anomalies.

 

The 6'1" kids are shooting it better. Play better defense on how the game is changing. Make them make more contested shots and the numbers even up...

How many high school teams have a skilled and effective 6'6" guard? 1%?

 

The game doesn't need changed for anomalies.

 

The 6'1" kids are shooting it better. Play better defense on how the game is changing. Make them make more contested shots and the numbers even up...

I'm with you GT. I was rebutting bbears comment that the game is moving to smaller guards. Athletes are getting better and they should be getting better on both sides of the ball.

I am old. How old? Old enough to have played before there was a 3 point line.

 

When I played, it was very common to shoot well beyond where the 3-point line is now. If you were a good shooter, and you were open, most coaches gave you the green light. And, because there was no 3 point line, no one gave it any thought that you were too far out. We averaged probably 65-70 points a game - so even without the line, we scored more than what many teams do now.

 

My point of all of this is that moving the line will not decrease the attempts. Yes, it will probably lower the percentage a bit, but it will not alter the strategy (IMO). I say keep it where it is.

All you have to do is look at scores. I was a kid when the 3 point line was installed into high school basketball. All of a sudden scores started going up. I was maybe a 5th grader. I worked hard all year and by 6th grade I was a decent 3 point shooter. I remember kids' games back then going from scores in the 20's or 30's to scores in the 40' and 50's. The same thing happened in high school. Score went up. My school put up anywhere between 80 to 100 a night. Many times if we were in the 80's we lost. Now high school scores are in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. Heck, remember the days of Loyola Marymount putting up 120 a night? I say leave it where it is. Don't penalize players for being good shooters. There is no way the line should be moved when scores have dropped as much as they have over the last 25 years.

How about teaching your team to defend better on the perimeter? Play with high hands and learn how to close out maybe? Running shooters off the line is basic defense...

 

Uuhhhh...don't get me started on that GT...kids have to WANT to play defense to start with.:no: I used to pride myself on being able to teach good defense, but seems like the last couple of years...not so much.

 

Anyway, it has a lot more to do than with just my team...it's a trend I see basketball wide. The 3 point shot at one time was more a "risk/reward" shot. My feeling is over the past 15-20 years it's gotten focused on so much that it seems to be far less "risky". Heck I even have some small middle school kids that can absolutely knock the eyes out of it, and I run plays for them to shoot it too, so I take advantage of it just as much as anybody else when the opportunity is there. Just seems to me the 19'9" today isn't the challenge 19'9" was back in the day, and I just wonder what the game would look like if it was moved back, say 6".

Anything kids practice a lot, they will likely get better at. And, what you see is not just the guards practicing the 3's...you'll see the bigs shooting it as well. So, the entire team is prepping for it.

And in response, I don't think there should be any suprise that there's a drop in the number of made/attempted pull-up 12-15 footers (even if they're wide open). I hate to use absolutes, because there are always exceptions...but, it at least seems that everything nowadays is either a 3 or a layup.

Heck, even some of the "bigs" these days don't work as much on their "back to the basket" technique. Seems like they'd prefer to get the ball 8-10 feet away from the hoop, so they can turn, face the basket, and try to take their guy 1 on 1.

A Shooter is a shooter...doesn't matter if it's 19'9, 20'9, or 23'9.

A Shooter is a shooter...doesn't matter if it's 19'9, 20'9, or 23'9.

I'd argue that. That extra foot or 3 feet makes a difference.

I'd argue that. That extra foot or 3 feet makes a difference.

 

In non succession, possibly. Example Chris Lofton could knock it down in HS, did in college, and can as a pro. When your recruited as a "shooter" your intent is to be able to make from any distance needed. A shooter going form 19'9 to 23'9 could acclimate in less than a month easily.

I say move it in some.

How about teaching your team to defend better on the perimeter? Play with high hands and learn how to close out maybe? Running shooters off the line is basic defense...

 

Bingo. :thumb:

Uuhhhh...don't get me started on that GT...kids have to WANT to play defense to start with.:no: I used to pride myself on being able to teach good defense, but seems like the last couple of years...not so much.

 

Anyway, it has a lot more to do than with just my team...it's a trend I see basketball wide. The 3 point shot at one time was more a "risk/reward" shot. My feeling is over the past 15-20 years it's gotten focused on so much that it seems to be far less "risky". Heck I even have some small middle school kids that can absolutely knock the eyes out of it, and I run plays for them to shoot it too, so I take advantage of it just as much as anybody else when the opportunity is there. Just seems to me the 19'9" today isn't the challenge 19'9" was back in the day, and I just wonder what the game would look like if it was moved back, say 6".

 

The numbers say otherwise. I watch a ton of high school ball and I have yet to see as many sharp shooters you are seeing.