December 1, 201510 yr I'm sure McElwain was highly regarded, but no one knew about him until he went to Florida. When Urban Meyer went to Ohio State, when Nick Saban went to Alabama, when Jim Harbaugh went to Michigan, everyone knew who these guys were before they landed there. McElwain needed Florida to become known and that, I feel, is the difference. Very true. Still think UF is among the truly elite jobs. People actually thought Bob Stoops would leave OU for UF re last two or three times it was open. Almost all major programs have hired no names at some point. Hoke, McElwain, Tressel, Coker, etc. I just think it backfires to not have experience in the real pressure cooker jobs. We're even seeing it at UK the last two coaches with the SEC.
December 1, 201510 yr SEC: Alabama, LSU, Florida, Georgia Pac 12: USC B1G: Michigan, Ohio St. ACC: Florida St. Big 12: Texas, Oklahoma Independent: Notre Dame
December 1, 201510 yr I'm sure McElwain was highly regarded, but no one knew about him until he went to Florida. When Urban Meyer went to Ohio State, when Nick Saban went to Alabama, when Jim Harbaugh went to Michigan, everyone knew who these guys were before they landed there. McElwain needed Florida to become known and that, I feel, is the difference. True college football fans knew exactly who McElwain was and knew he wasn't going to be at Colorado State long.
December 1, 201510 yr Let's be honest as far as job hopping within college is concerned, Oregon is probably a destination job now. Money for whatever, great facilities, etc. Not enough to keep a coach from looking at the NFL like Kelly, but I don't think a coach automatically leaves from there to one of the true top jobs.
December 1, 201510 yr Author Let's be honest as far as job hopping within college is concerned, Oregon is probably a destination job now. Money for whatever, great facilities, etc. Not enough to keep a coach from looking at the NFL like Kelly, but I don't think a coach automatically leaves from there to one of the true top jobs. Definitely should be considered. Let's say Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, would he stay at Oregon if one of the other jobs already mentioned would open up? I don't know. Oregon may have the facilities, the money, support from the fanbase, but there isn't much in state talent to recruit from especially opposed to Texas, Ohio, Florida, and Alabama.
December 1, 201510 yr Definitely should be considered. Let's say Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, would he stay at Oregon if one of the other jobs already mentioned would open up? I don't know. Oregon may have the facilities, the money, support from the fanbase, but there isn't much in state talent to recruit from especially opposed to Texas, Ohio, Florida, and Alabama. All true. Who knows? One thing in Oregon's favor is that it has been national elite with the fertile recruiting base. But with that comes more work in recruiting.
December 1, 201510 yr I'm sure McElwain was highly regarded, but no one knew about him until he went to Florida. When Urban Meyer went to Ohio State, when Nick Saban went to Alabama, when Jim Harbaugh went to Michigan, everyone knew who these guys were before they landed there. McElwain needed Florida to become known and that, I feel, is the difference.Urban was a house hold name when he went to UF? What about Brian Kelly when he went to ND?
December 1, 201510 yr Author Urban was a house hold name when he went to UF? What about Brian Kelly when he went to ND? Absolutely. They were both household names. That's why it's such a subjective question. It's completely based on your own opinion and there aren't really any sort of numbers or information one can look at and say definitively that a school is or is not a destination job. I mean look at Mark Dantonio at Michigan State. MSU certainly was not a destination job before he got there, but I could argue that it is now. He could have left and went to any school that we've named so far that had an availability, but he chose to stay at MSU. When he leaves, I believe MSU will be able to get anyone they want because they can build off his legacy there. Unless you bring up something like UK or a school like that, it's sort of hard to argue against any school. Heck Nebraska was a destination job forever, now they hire Mike Reilly? Really? It's clearly not a spot to people anymore, but who knows if the right person comes along Nebraska is one of those jobs again.
December 1, 201510 yr Good call on Nebraska...along with Miami, the top program in the 80's and 90's. Another school that used to be a great job, and now you forget they even have a team...Colorado. Feel like all of the real destination jobs have pretty much been mentioned. What programs could become that type of job in the near future? I would say Texas A&M could get close to that territory. UCLA might have a shot, though they're probably always going to play second fiddle to USC.
December 1, 201510 yr How so? Florida has three titles in the last 20 years. It pays as well as any job. Way more history and much more in state talent than LSU. OU and Michigan have the history but don't have the location or talent base in state. FSU doesn't spend what UF is willing to spend. Worse conference. I hate UF but it's a top five job to me. SEC Homer.
December 1, 201510 yr SEC Homer. My favorite football program is in the ACC. And let's face it, the SEC and now the Big 10 are as big as it gets in coaching currently. 10 wins aren't enough in that league. That's as competitive as it gets.
December 1, 201510 yr Author IMO there are 3 conferences that are on par with each other right now but all for different reasons. 1a. SEC 1b. B1G 1c. Pac 12 SEC because they have the most talent across every team B1G because they have the most really great teams Pac-12 because they have they go deeper than any conference right now ACC is next because they won a championship recently and have 1 really good team every year but thats it. Big 12 outside of TCU beating Ole Miss last year they haven't proven yet that they are able to beat the big boys of college football yet.
December 1, 201510 yr My favorite football program is in the ACC. And let's face it, the SEC and now the Big 10 are as big as it gets in coaching currently. 10 wins aren't enough in that league. That's as competitive as it gets. I'll disagree simply because Georgia isn't a national power. Alabama, Auburn even LSU I understand, but not Georgia. But I guess those in power can wish and hope they get a Nick Saban.
December 1, 201510 yr Author I'll disagree simply because Georgia isn't a national power. Alabama, Auburn even LSU I understand, but not Georgia. But I guess those in power can wish and hope they get a Nick Saban. I disagree whole heartedly with Auburn. If Cam Newton hadn't of gone there would Auburn even be considered amongst the best SEC programs?
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