I have not read the article but any time you are driving your official police vehicle you are technically on duty.

Another parent would have been charged with something. Same should apply here.

 

Only if you charge the bus driver with letting him on the bus in the first place.

 

Bus driver should not let a normal parent on the bus, period, but because he was a police officer the bus driver did? Whats the regulation book for bus drivers say on this, are they allowed to let law enforcement on the buses at any time?

Lets clarify something:

 

The issue is that this dad confronted the kids on the school bus correct?

 

The other issue is that this dad is a Police officer correct?

 

What if this dad confronted the kids, not on the school bus, but out in public, while out of uniform?

 

The issue seems to be he used his position as an officer to get on the bus as a parent and castigate a kid for what MIGHT have happened.

 

For the record, I would NOT be happy if one of the boys on the bus was my son.

Only if you charge the bus driver with letting him on the bus in the first place.

 

Bus driver should not let a normal parent on the bus, period, but because he was a police officer the bus driver did? Whats the regulation book for bus drivers say on this, are they allowed to let law enforcement on the buses at any time?

 

I'm going to assume they are required to.

At first I was going to bust on the bus driver for letting him on. However, if he pulled up in his cruiser and had his uniform on then I can see why they let him on.

 

Im friends with a few bus drivers, Ive reached out to them asking how their district handles this situation. I assume its like the classroom, and unless its your school resource officer, no other officers are allowed to just enter the classroom. (Classroom = bus, in this instance)

I have not read the article but any time you are driving your official police vehicle you are technically on duty.

 

I'm going to assume that when you're on duty you're probably not going to go find a kid who touched a girl's hair. Correct?

Im friends with a few bus drivers, Ive reached out to them asking how their district handles this situation. I assume its like the classroom, and unless its your school resource officer, no other officers are allowed to just enter the classroom. (Classroom = bus, in this instance)

 

I'll be curious to hear the answer and would be SHOCKED if that's the case.

 

I also find it hard to believe that ONLY the SRO can enter a classroom. Defies logic.

Would it be okay for a regular citizen to stop a bus to confront students that they were upset with?

 

It was were I come from...take of business and you don't have any problems with your DD.

Only if you charge the bus driver with letting him on the bus in the first place.

 

Bus driver should not let a normal parent on the bus, period, but because he was a police officer the bus driver did? Whats the regulation book for bus drivers say on this, are they allowed to let law enforcement on the buses at any time?

 

Not sure but I sure would let an officer get on my bus. I guess that makes it even worse for him to do it than any other parent in a way.

I'll be curious to hear the answer and would be SHOCKED if that's the case.

 

I also find it hard to believe that ONLY the SRO can enter a classroom. Defies logic.

 

Response # one from an NKY bus driver:

 

We are not to let the officer on the bus. We are to talk with them through the driver window, and call dispatch to send a supervisor to our location, should there be a need for the officer to get access to the bus.

I'll be curious to hear the answer and would be SHOCKED if that's the case.

 

I also find it hard to believe that ONLY the SRO can enter a classroom. Defies logic.

Thats not how it works, other officers can enter classrooms. Our drug dog is not run by the SRO

Response # one from an NKY bus driver:

 

We are not to let the officer on the bus. We are to talk with them through the driver window, and call dispatch to send a supervisor to our location, should there be a need for the officer to get access to the bus.

 

Thanks. I'd be curious as to why they have to have a supervisor allow it.

I'm going to assume that when you're on duty you're probably not going to go find a kid who touched a girl's hair. Correct?

 

If someone contacted the police and requested an officer respond to them in regards to unwanted touching you absolutely would.

 

Again, haven't read the article. But... the Officer should have radioed dispatch and advised them he received a direct complaint via cell phone from his daughter, he was going to initiate a traffic stop on the school bus to make sure the incident was inactive, and he was going to wait for another officer to respond and handle the complaint.

Response # one from an NKY bus driver:

 

We are not to let the officer on the bus. We are to talk with them through the driver window, and call dispatch to send a supervisor to our location, should there be a need for the officer to get access to the bus.

 

Slippery slope. If the officer has a legal right to enter and/or a legal duty to enter the bus and the bus driver stops him eventually the bus driver is going to jail.

 

What you need to take away from this is not police arrogance but rather blanket polices where private citizens think they have some power over the police are ultra dangerous to everyone involved and will often have severe consequences.

Slippery slope. If the officer has a legal right to enter and/or a legal duty to enter the bus and the bus driver stops him eventually the bus driver is going to jail.

 

What you need to take away from this is not police arrogance but rather blanket polices where private citizens think they have some power over the police are ultra dangerous to everyone involved and will often have severe consequences.

 

Agreed. The bus isn't someone's home so there are no Constitutional grounds for preventing an officer from entering the bus.