If you haven't seen them yet, Navy is wearing special helmets for the Army/Navy game. They are bad to the bone. Each helmet has a different ship on them.

 

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I have seen them and yes they are the coolest helmets I've ever seen. I know the helmets weren't done by Under Armour, but Navy has a really good deal with them. They have some of the coolest uniform combinations of any team not named Oregon.

How the Heisman trophy should play out:

 

1. McCaffrey

2. Henry

3. Mayfield

4. Elliott

5. Reynolds

 

Watson should be left at home over Keenan Reynolds. Neither of them will win and Reynolds is a better story. Watson has 2 more years to win it.

I think McCaffery closed the gap, but probably not enough to win the award. I hope Reynolds is invited so that he can be flown in by helicopter for the ceremony.

I think McCaffery closed the gap, but probably not enough to win the award. I hope Reynolds is invited so that he can be flown in by helicopter for the ceremony.

 

Agreed on both points.

I think McCaffery closed the gap, but probably not enough to win the award. I hope Reynolds is invited so that he can be flown in by helicopter for the ceremony.

Agreed on both points.

Do you all think if he played for a contender on the East Coast that he would win? I think Henry's going to win, but I just think McCaffrey should win, not that he will. If McCaffrey played for Michigan would he win? Is Henry just that good? I tend to think not. I think McCaffrey does more stuff on his own than Henry does. Henry is more of a product of a great offensive line than McCaffrey is. Reynolds has to make it. As big of an OSU fan as I am, I would be fine keeping Elliott out of New York so Reynolds could have his place.

Do you all think if he played for a contender on the East Coast that he would win? I think Henry's going to win, but I just think McCaffrey should win, not that he will. If McCaffrey played for Michigan would he win? Is Henry just that good? I tend to think not. I think McCaffrey does more stuff on his own than Henry does. Henry is more of a product of a great offensive line than McCaffrey is. Reynolds has to make it. As big of an OSU fan as I am, I would be fine keeping Elliott out of New York so Reynolds could have his place.

Maybe, but I don't buy the west coast bias thing. Recently USC has had 3 winners, Mariotta last year, Toby Gerhardt I believe finished second a few years ago after a late year push.

Maybe, but I don't buy the west coast bias thing. Recently USC has had 3 winners, Mariotta last year, Toby Gerhardt I believe finished second a few years ago after a late year push.

I don't think it's a bias persay but it's more that almost all of his games were at 10 ET. If you stayed up to watch you probably only watched the first half, if anything at all. He just hasn't had the exposure that Henry has playing at 3 on CBS every Saturday. That has to hurt him. Mariota had the name recognition coming into the season so people knew that they wanted to watch him when they were on, where it wasn't until Stanford made this late season push that McCaffrey really started to get attention. I don't know, maybe it doesn't matter, but I think his chances would be a lot better if he played at a Michigan, a Florida, or somewhere else this side of the Mississippi.

We've gone from Fournette being the easy choice to now him potentially not being top 3.

 

Crazy.

We've gone from Fournette being the easy choice to now him potentially not being top 3.

 

Crazy.

 

A bad game and Ls can do that to you.

How the Heisman trophy should play out:

 

1. McCaffrey

2. Henry

3. Mayfield

4. Elliott

5. Reynolds

 

Watson should be left at home over Keenan Reynolds. Neither of them will win and Reynolds is a better story. Watson has 2 more years to win it.

 

Elliott over Cook? You've lost your mind.

Elliott over Cook? You've lost your mind.

If it was up to me I would vote for Elliott to win. I'm a Buckeye fan so putting Elliott 4th is as unbiased as I get. But also I highly doubt you watched any Ohio State game besides the MSU game, because if you did you would realize Elliott and McCaffrey are on another level when it comes to be complete running backs. Elliott is the only running back who will be selected in the first round. Don't act like Ezekiel Elliott isn't worthy of being talked about for Heisman. That's ridiculous.

If it was up to me I would vote for Elliott to win. I'm a Buckeye fan so putting Elliott 4th is as unbiased as I get. But also I highly doubt you watched any Ohio State game besides the MSU game, because if you did you would realize Elliott and McCaffrey are on another level when it comes to be complete running backs. Elliott is the only running back who will be selected in the first round. Don't act like Ezekiel Elliott isn't worthy of being talked about for Heisman. That's ridiculous.

 

 

You would have to put some intangibles into your vote for Elliott over Cook.

 

Same yardage but Cook averaged about 1.5 more yards per carry.

You would have to put some intangibles into your vote for Elliott over Cook.

 

Same yardage but Cook averaged about 1.5 more yards per carry.

Obviously I would have to. Elliott is the best blocking running back in the country and it isn't even close. He has yet to miss a blocking assignment this year. In 12 games to not give up a hit on the QB is incredible. He plays fullback for JT all the time springing big blocks for him downfield. That's what was so frustrating about the MSU game for me. Yeah they needed to give Zeke the ball more obviously, but they weren't even having him block for Barrett. They would motion him out of the backfield and Barrett would take off and run without Zeke there to block for him. I'm going to be heated about that game for a long, long time...

If it was up to me I would vote for Elliott to win. I'm a Buckeye fan so putting Elliott 4th is as unbiased as I get. But also I highly doubt you watched any Ohio State game besides the MSU game, because if you did you would realize Elliott and McCaffrey are on another level when it comes to be complete running backs. Elliott is the only running back who will be selected in the first round. Don't act like Ezekiel Elliott isn't worthy of being talked about for Heisman. That's ridiculous.

 

I saw a few OSU games. Zeke is solid and I've never said different. But he's not better than Cook or Fournette for that matter. And he very well may be the only RB taken in the first round due to both Cook and Fournette being sophomores or those would be the first two taken. You're letting your blindness show.

I saw a few OSU games. Zeke is solid and I've never said different. But he's not better than Cook or Fournette for that matter. And he very well may be the only RB taken in the first round due to both Cook and Fournette being sophomores or those would be the first two taken. You're letting your blindness show.

He would go over Fournette and Cook. He is more well rounded than both of them. There is such little difference between the 5 top RBs this year that it doesn't matter. But if you listen to the NFL people at all they are all over Elliott. He's the best true running back in the country. I would say McCaffrey but while he is a running back, he's more of a Hybrid Back instead of a running back. I just saw Cook break off that one run against Clemson and then be pretty average at best the rest of the game. I'm not saying he's not good, but he's more Chris Johnson to Elliott being Adrian Peterson. The Peterson comparison is obviously a stretch right now, but that's who he most resembles IMO.