I still have no problem with the school's response, like I said they are in a no win situation when it comes to difficult parents. I think they should pass along the parent's demand to panda. However, I do not think they should restrict panda if he chose not to take the pictures down.

 

Hypothetically, a school asking is no problem but a school leveraging or forcing is no go.

I wish my kids had been talented enough to have more pictures taken and posted. Have to get on the field to do that though.

 

A skilled photog would make a sale with you too.

I always try to pay my way into events so as to take the schools out of the equation, but I must say CCH and NDA will simply not let me pay my way in.

A skilled photog would make a sale with you too.

 

Be tough to find them to shoot. The ones that played sports take after their 5'0" mother so they were always hidden in the crowd. The one that has any size is a major nerd but he'll support us all someday.

I've never thought about it. Why do you ask?

 

You are suggesting this type of policy would be a school protecting children and if they didn't how would we all feel. My question is pointing out that is the same logic the government uses to collect ALL of your PERSONAL information.

 

#nannystate

Be tough to find them to shoot. The ones that played sports take after their 5'0" mother so they were always hidden in the crowd. The one that has any size is a major nerd but he'll support us all someday.

 

Warmups, celebrations, candids, piece of cake...

I always try to pay my way into events so as to take the schools out of the equation, but I must say CCH and NDA will simply not let me pay my way in.

 

When you pay they can't restrict you period unless they restrict everyone. Now they could restrict your location, but not your photos.

To inject a bit of humor here one of my FB friends stated she may work for the BOK. Now that was funny.

I was thinking someone that took pre law classes. And it is amazing how little most lawyers know about this area of the law. Of course, most lawyers focus in an area or two and often don't have a clue about most areas of the law.

Kentucky milesplit always has a ton of pics on their website for cross country. I also noticed that Ryle has a picture section on their website for XC. I wonder if this athlete is on those websites. I love going through the excellent pics paNDA posts and hopefully he will be able to continue!

Parents often pick the wrong battles. Everything has changed so much in the life we used to know. This is a good example. What's wrong with having a picture of someone playing a sport? The player will love the publicity, but some weirdo parent won't. I don't understand what the big deal is.

Some people have too much time on their hands and come up the most petty complaints.

 

If the parent had any class they would have contacted paNDA directly with a request instead of hiding anonymously behind the school. I hate cowards who make these huge complaints but won't put their faces to it.

Quite frankly, as stated, the school (public which is all I am familiar, must get permission). An example, as a principal, 30 years ago (that's how long ago this has been around folks) the Kentucky Post wanted to take a picture of a new teacher and her classroom. I had a list of students (4 or 5, the best I can recall) whose parents said no pics without their permission. As luck would have it one of the little fellers was in her class. We called the parent, she said no, we removed the kid ( he had no reason why, I made up some errand for him to do) and the pics were taken and ran the next day in the Post.

 

My point being, public school administrators know and can inform any photographer not to take the pics or keep #6 out of the photos. They could then say post the others. It was never a large number of students, but it's been ten years since I have been involved in a school/district to the level where I would need to know. So it really should not present a problem.

 

I have no idea how you control the crowd that takes them and posts them.

 

This is a little crazy or extreme, you would think. I was told the main reason this is in place is obviously for privacy for the minor, but also, there might be a family in something like a Witness Protection Program and no one would know that, not even the school administration.

 

I empathize Panda, not an easy solution or better yet not always an easy solution.

So....Does your school have a document for parents to sign authorizing use of their child's picture either in the paper or online?

 

Yes. But not for the purpose of dealing with newspapers, enthusiast or professional photographers.

 

The primary purpose was to allow the school to post on the schools website, publications, yearbook, etc. and also for use in marketing and publicity which would otherwise be problematic without a formal release form.

 

Photos taken in public can not really be directly controlled by the subjects - or their parents. A photographer can take pictures in public and offer them for sale. Or post them to FB, Photobucket, Smugmg, PhotoReflect, etc. for a fee or for free. The image is not really sold...its licensed. The orginal image always belongs to the photographer. So even when sold/licensed the use of the photo comes with restrictions. The most common license that comes with the 'purchase' of an online photo is that the photo is for 'Personal use'. It is not to be resold or used for business purposes. Violating the license would be illegal - and would be on the purchaser. Also if an image were used for business or marketing purposes without an explicit release from the subject of the image then there would be two wrongs.

 

Newspapers and some would say enthusiast who leverage FB or the sites above are serving a public interest and also do not need explicit permission from the school or the subject - at a pure legal level.

 

But what is legal and what should be done to keep the peace can be two different things. Images can be mis-used in many ways but if a parent thinks their kids image is not going to show up online if they are in any organized sports or choir or band or anything else - they are terribly naive. 2.8 L series $2000 Canon lenses on $2000 SLR cameras are no longer needed to grab pictures at events. Every phone is can now take zoomed, hi-res photos. That's even the major draw of the new 6s - its upgraded camera.

 

 

 

 

 

Some parents obviously have concerns