September 14, 201511 yr That said some dogs are just naturally more aggressive. Whether that applies to a pit or not i have no idea. What I do know is Pitbulls are responsible for more deaths over the last 30 years than any other breed. As a matter of fact they have almost twice the kills than any other one breed. What percentage of bites are attributed to pits? Not deaths, but bites? A pit is strong, if it bites, it may kill but another breed that isn't so strong may bite 100x more than a pit, it just can't kill.
September 14, 201511 yr What percentage of bites are attributed to pits? Not deaths, but bites? A pit is strong, if it bites, it may kill but another breed that isn't so strong may bite 100x more than a pit, it just can't kill. That was the basis for my questions earlier. Do pits actually bit more frequently than other dogs, or is it simply because of their size and strength that when pits do bite they do serious damage?
September 14, 201511 yr You guys are kidding yourselves if you think a dogs nature is all training and handling. My aunt and uncle had a Burmese Mountain dog years ago. Dog was awesome when he was young, very gentle, but the older he go the meaner he got. They finally had to have him put down. He was raised in a loving family and was not mistreated. Sometimes dogs, or any animal for that matter, are wired wrong. That said some dogs are just naturally more aggressive. Whether that applies to a pit or not i have no idea. What I do know is Pitbulls are responsible for more deaths over the last 30 years than any other breed. As a matter of fact they have almost twice the kills than any other one breed. Exactly. Agree with every word of this post. (as usual)
September 14, 201511 yr While it is true that any dog with mistreatment can "turn", certain breeds seem more likely and some seem less likely. A dog that can take quite a bit of teasing by kids and not attack is a Boxer like my brother's dog. Boxers are rarely known to attack and if they are being teased by kids, they are know more to run off or if they cannot, swat at the offenders, hence the name Boxer. Pit's are on the other end based on what statistics I have read about dogs attacks. It doesn't help that Pits are the favorite for idiot punks/thugs/whatever term you want. So saying that, when around dogs, I am always on some degree of alertness. To use Colonel Jeff Cooper Color Code for Alertness, for most dogs, I would be in yellow. Around Pits, I won't lie, I shift to Orange. I love Boxers but every list I have seen puts Boxers in the top 10 of dangerous breeds. They were originally bred for fighting.
September 14, 201511 yr What percentage of bites are attributed to pits? Not deaths, but bites? A pit is strong, if it bites, it may kill but another breed that isn't so strong may bite 100x more than a pit, it just can't kill. That was the basis for my questions earlier. Do pits actually bit more frequently than other dogs, or is it simply because of their size and strength that when pits do bite they do serious damage? I've always heard that Dalmatians are more likely to bite than other breeds. But yes, pit bulls do a lot more damage.
September 15, 201511 yr What percentage of bites are attributed to pits? Not deaths, but bites? A pit is strong, if it bites, it may kill but another breed that isn't so strong may bite 100x more than a pit, it just can't kill. That was the basis for my questions earlier. Do pits actually bit more frequently than other dogs, or is it simply because of their size and strength that when pits do bite they do serious damage?According to this pits have the most from 1982 - 2014 and its not even remotely close. Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 31, 2014 - By Merritt Clifton - DogsBite.org
September 15, 201511 yr It's just not worth the risk. Sure, some dogs of all breeds will bite. But a higher % of pits will bite and if they do the damage is massive. Please show me where you arrived at your stats! Myth: Pits Bite Harder than Other Dogs Who hasn’t heard about the incredible amount of force exerted by the jaws of a pit bull? The amazing 1600 pounds per square inch that the pit bull is said to exert through their bite is actually just like many other breeds – around 235 pounds per square inch. What dog has the highest pounds per square inch bite force? The Rottweiler which measures in at 328 pounds per square inch of bite force. Even with this figure in mind though, does this mean that the Rottweiler is a dangerous breed? Not necessarily: It means that if a Rottweiler were to bite someone or something it could be capable of exerting 328 pounds per square inch of bite force. It does not mean that this dog will bite or that it will exert that much force with a bite. What this data could mean also is that if a dog does exert that much bite force, the resulting bite could be much more severe than a bite from a less powerful dog. And that means that bites from this type of dog are more likely to be reported than bites from smaller, less powerful dogs leading to a news reporting bias. Pit Bull Facts and Why We Love This Breed | CanineJournal.com I am pretty sure a lot of propaganda is put out by insurance companies. There are a lot of dog bites every years (so why have any dog), but the "powerful breeds" are more likely to cause higher damage and be reported thus if no one had any dogs....took any risks....BTW....get a car, but don't drive it...the insurance companies would make even more money than they already do. My black dog in the middle is a big Pit mix. Most loveable dog you'll ever meet. I will also totally agree owning a "powerful breed" (and high energy) dog is not for everyone.
September 15, 201511 yr 2014 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org 2014 dog bite fatality statistics 42 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2014. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 64% (27) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2 Together, pit bulls (27) and rottweilers (4), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 74% of the total recorded deaths in 2014. This same combination also accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 10-year period of 2005 to 2014. The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 10-year period. From 2005 to 2014, pit bulls killed 203 Americans, about one citizen every 18 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 38, about one citizen every 96 days. In the year of 2014, the combination of pit bulls (27), rottweilers (4) and mastiff-type guard dogs and war dogs (4) -- the types used to create "baiting" bull breeds and fighting breeds -- accounted for 83% (35) of all dog bite-related fatalities.3 Annual data from 2014 shows that 48% (20) of the fatality victims were children 13-years and younger, and 52% (22) were adults, 20-years and older. Of the total adults killed by dogs in 2014, 73% (16) were ages 50-years and older. I have seen this site before, and I am convinced it is funded by the insurance industry. It is the most anti-dog propaganda you can find. By this same logic why would anyone ever have a child? People kill, main, injure more people than any other animals..they are more expensive...harder to manage and maintain? Just sayin....
September 15, 201511 yr My pit has bull terrier in him as well (maybe some other breeds as well). The vet recommended I do the genetic testing on the off chance he has more terrier than pit. Better for insurance I guess :idunno:
September 16, 201511 yr I have seen this site before, and I am convinced it is funded by the insurance industry. It is the most anti-dog propaganda you can find. By this same logic why would anyone ever have a child? People kill, main, injure more people than any other animals..they are more expensive...harder to manage and maintain? Just sayin.... So are you disputing the statics they give?
September 16, 201511 yr So are you disputing the statics they give? Yes. This website is started and maintained by a woman with a grudge. The REAL Dog Bite Statistics Plus Media, Myths & Colleen Lynn EXPOSED | BSL News That being said, I would never try to persuade someone to adopt a pit bull...I would only advise them to look at each dog as an individual, regardless of the breed. As a person deeply involved in rescue, I am around a lot of dogs, especially at our local animal shelter. As a rescue volunteer, I wince when I hear about people breeding pit bulls because I our shelter is full of them. I can't even begin to tell you about my experiences with them and also how I have seen this breed, in particular, become the dog du jour of the, let's say, unsavory crowd. Pits, like Rottweilers, German Shephards, etc. are powerful dogs, and they need to be brought up or managed by people with some level of common sense. That is frequently not the case.
September 16, 201511 yr Yes. This website is started and maintained by a woman with a grudge. The REAL Dog Bite Statistics Plus Media, Myths & Colleen Lynn EXPOSED | BSL News That being said, I would never try to persuade someone to adopt a pit bull...I would only advise them to look at each dog as an individual, regardless of the breed. As a person deeply involved in rescue, I am around a lot of dogs, especially at our local animal shelter. As a rescue volunteer, I wince when I hear about people breeding pit bulls because I our shelter is full of them. I can't even begin to tell you about my experiences with them and also how I have seen this breed, in particular, become the dog du jour of the, let's say, unsavory crowd. Pits, like Rottweilers, German Shephards, etc. are powerful dogs, and they need to be brought up or managed by people with some level of common sense. That is frequently not the case. She may very well be biased and have an agenda, but that doesn't mean the numbers she reported are false. Look at the CDC report I linked. Also with little effort there are other links that all say the same thing. So while you may not like her or you think she has a grudge, you haven't shown me anything that paints a different picture of dog attack numbers.
September 16, 201511 yr Until every dog is trained the same and lives in the same environment, you won't convince me it's not because of poor training and ownership. They are very strong animals, so when they do bite, it is going to be worse than a dog that isn't as powerful. You don't have to convince that training is the issue, I know many well trained docile pits. However, by the same token, until all pits are trained in the same type of environment that promotes proper behavior, they are an extremely dangerous animal and be should be treated as such.
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