September 10, 201511 yr To be quite frank about it, as a whole, we wholeheartedly ALWAYS look directly at the player when something like this happens and blame him. When in reality, what happened last night was Welke had a terrible night calling balls and strikes, he blew a strike call on a ball that was 3 inches off the plate, then he got upset because he has a previous beef with Votto. THEN, when Votto tried to do the right thing and compose his thoughts when asking for time, he denied him time, like he was a little leaguer rather than a guy hitting .400 since the ASG. Now, Votto will be the one that is looked at in a negative light and the one that has to answer the questions from the media, while Welke will get on his plane to the next series and ride back into anonymity. Honestly, it was a bullheaded move by Welke and Votto told him about it. I guess Welke needs reminder that no one is here to see him, because he sure decided he was going to be the show last night. I fully, wholeheartedly 100% support Joey. He didn't spit on him. He didn't do anything except get in his face and tell him what he thought of him, and I don't blame him a bit. Bill Welke was flat out wrong, and he should be the one suspended. We can't just assume the one with the most power is the one that is always right.
September 10, 201511 yr " he did not spit on the guy, but I am sure some was flying." ??? So this IS spitting in the ump's face, by definition. He's getting suspended, period. Big difference in spitting in someones face on purpose and yelling and some flying out on accident. It's gross either way but he clearly didn't spit in his face on purpose.
September 10, 201511 yr Guy is frustrated, can you blame him? Bruce and Frazier are #1 , and #2 in the league at opportunities with RISP and have stunk all year getting those guys in , AKA Jay Bruce bases loaded strike out in the 8th. That strike zone was bad last night, wished Bruce or Frazier would get ejected just once. Bruce is a softy. The problem is it has been this way for 4 years, might want to address it, but wait it is Jocketty we are talking about. How about this, pay your pitchers and go after guys like Suarez
September 10, 201511 yr Author SHOULD NOT get suspended at all. WILL get suspended a game or 2. So touching umpires is OK, just because, he's your guy? come on man! 2nd time this season, 3-5 games, maybe more.
September 10, 201511 yr So touching umpires is OK, just because, he's your guy? come on man! 2nd time this season, 3-5 games, maybe more. When did he touch him?
September 10, 201511 yr So touching umpires is OK, just because, he's your guy? come on man! 2nd time this season, 3-5 games, maybe more. When did he touch him? A whisker on his face might have touched one on Welkes face. If anything Welke touched Votto when he started pointing at his own face.
September 10, 201511 yr Author " pay your pitchers " The Reds can't because most of there money is tied up on Votto's contract, $250,000,000. Yes, he's a great hitter, but this Reds market can't afford him, and expect to compete with #4-5 starters coming up thru the system, not to mention the $106,000,000 man, who has been a .500 pitcher his whole career. Bottom line, the Reds have spent there money foolishly on to many players, I.E. Bailey, Bruce, next year Frazier, Chapman, which is making starters money to pitch every 10 days or so, and you're seeing the results.
September 10, 201511 yr " pay your pitchers " The Reds can't because most of there money is tied up on Votto's contract, $250,000,000. Yes, he's a great hitter, but this Reds market can't afford him, and expect to compete with #4-5 starters coming up thru the system, not to mention the $106,000,000 man, who has been a .500 pitcher his whole career. Bottom line, the Reds have spent there money foolishly on to many players, I.E. Bailey, Bruce, next year Frazier, Chapman, which is making starters money to pitch every 10 days or so, and you're seeing the results. Don't think anyone will argue with you. What's that have to do with Votto's altercation last night?
September 10, 201511 yr Author When did he touch him? With his nose, and spit balls, again this isn't Votto's first offence, this season, he's getting suspended, and at this point of the season who cares. The NFL starts tonight.
September 10, 201511 yr With his nose, and spit balls, again this isn't Votto's first offence, this season, he's getting suspended, and at this point of the season who cares. The NFL starts tonight. Clearly you do, as is evident by your 6 posts in this thread calling for it....
September 10, 201511 yr Author Don't think anyone will argue with you. What's that have to do with Votto's altercation last night? Votto is the guy you've trusted the future of this organization to, like it or not he's the poster boy for this Reds franchise who won't be able to afford any front line starters in the next 7 years or so, because of his salary. P.S. Don't kid yourself either, the Reds minor league system is poor at best. I realize they are trying to make Robert Stevenson out to be the next Cy Young, most if not all other organization will tell you he's a #3-4 at best
September 10, 201511 yr Author Clearly you do, as is evident by your 6 posts in this thread calling for it.... Just stating the facts, to all the Joey Votto lovers on here.
September 10, 201511 yr Votto is the guy you've trusted the future of this organization to, like it or not he's the poster boy for this Reds franchise who won't be able to afford any front line starters in the next 7 years or so, because of his salary. P.S. Don't kid yourself either, the Reds minor league system is poor at best. I realize they are trying to make Robert Stevenson out to be the next Cy Young, most if not all other organization will tell you he's a #3 -4 at best :lol2: :lol2: It's Stephenson first of all... He could turn out to be a bust but no one on earth projects him as a #3 or #4 starter.
September 10, 201511 yr Author :lol2: :lol2: It's Stephenson first of all... He could turn out to be a bust but no one on earth projects him as a #3 or #4 starter. Oh, that Stephenson, he'll be a #4-5 at best, my bad.
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