I just want them to play. I don't give a rip what they believe. I have friends who are non believers. I have friends who believe. I have friends who have other beliefs. Not sure why I should care about Foster or Tebow for that matter. Just like Tiger and his infidelity, just hit great golf shots. I don't care about the rest. So I hope for his sake he's right. Cause whether he does or doesn't believe doesn't make one iota difference to me. Or to anyone else for that matter. But if it makes a headline, well good for him. Cause he's running out of football reasons to make any.

For those of you that are offended/perturbed/upset every time an athlete gives Glory to God when being interviewed, should I assume that those 1,000's and 1,000's that that don't mention God are throwing their atheism in my face?

 

BTW I'm not offended when someone doesn't mention God in an interview nor I think less of them.

 

I'm not offended at all. I just think it's funny that "Christians" get all worked up over atheists, when you consider how big a number advantage "Christians" have on atheists and other folks who don't feel the need to peacock their Christianity to everyone.

No doubt there are more the other way,you just asked if Foster was. Answer is yes. How do you feel about that? Are you as opposed to it as you are the other side doing it?

 

I don't care what Arian Foster believes or doesn't believe. I'm not the one who gets worked up about his atheism. And I don't care about anyone else's beliefs, either. I'd just rather not be hammered over the head with a Bible when I turn every corner.

I just want them to play. I don't give a rip what they believe. I have friends who are non believers. I have friends who believe. I have friends who have other beliefs. Not sure why I should care about Foster or Tebow for that matter. Just like Tiger and his infidelity, just hit great golf shots. I don't care about the rest. So I hope for his sake he's right. Cause whether he does or doesn't believe doesn't make one iota difference to me. Or to anyone else for that matter. But if it makes a headline, well good for him. Cause he's running out of football reasons to make any.

 

Part of the problem is there's always this. Every so-called Christian in the world loves to use this "I hope for their sake they're right" thing as a way to feel superior about things. If you really don't care, then stop with that.

 

This is a broadcast post to everyone, despite the fact that I picked on my friend SD here by quoting him.

Preach on Brother Schue!

 

Stop goading me. :lol:

I don't care what Arian Foster believes or doesn't believe. I'm not the one who gets worked up about his atheism. And I don't care about anyone else's beliefs, either. I'd just rather not be hammered over the head with a Bible when I turn every corner.

I don't disagree with anything you say but If we complain about those sharing their faith shouldn't we complain about those sharing their lack of faith?

 

I think all of them should shut up and play.

Part of the problem is there's always this. Every so-called Christian in the world loves to use this "I hope for their sake they're right" thing as a way to feel superior about things. If you really don't care, then stop with that.

 

This is a broadcast post to everyone, despite the fact that I picked on my friend SD here by quoting him.

Ok I'll bite. It has nothing to do with superior. If Christians believe that there is life beyond the grave, how does hoping someone doesn't make an eternally wrong decision come off as superior? See, from my point of view that retort comes off as paranoia.

Ok I'll bite. It has nothing to do with superior. If Christians believe that there is life beyond the grave, how does hoping someone doesn't make an eternally wrong decision come off as superior? See, from my point of view that retort comes off as paranoia.

 

When has "I hope for your sake you're right" ever been that kind, loving Jesus talk we've heard about? Good, bad or indifferent, that's just nasty to say to someone.

 

Gosh, SD, I'll pray that you see the light and quit being a dumb Christian.

 

You see what I mean? The Bible-tossers throw lines out right and left that are similar to the above, just with a different tone and intent. Not sure why this is difficult to grasp.

I'll pray for Arian Foster.

When has "I hope for your sake you're right" ever been that kind, loving Jesus talk we've heard about? Good, bad or indifferent, that's just nasty to say to someone.

 

Gosh, SD, I'll pray that you see the light and quit being a dumb Christian.

 

You see what I mean? The Bible-tossers throw lines out right and left that are similar to the above, just with a different tone and intent. Not sure why this is difficult to grasp.

Well I really don't have an ulterior motive other than this: If Arian is right and there is no god, then we are both in the same shape. If I'm right and there is a God, then Arian is headed to hell. It's really that simple for me. You can paint Jesus however you want, but there's a hell to avoid (per Jesus, by the way). Sure Jesus personifies love, but when He returns it won't be to pat folks on the back to gently urge them to repent. We obviously won't see eye to eye on this one, so I'm out, just like Foster.

With all the different religions, that can be said about anyone. Who really knows which choice is the right choice??

 

If it comes down to dying and just being dead, living in a lake of eternal fire in hell or living eternity in Heaven where the streets are made of gold...I know what I'm choosing.

I read the whole article in ESPN the Mag today. Best part is the interactions beteen Foster and former teammate Justin Forsett.

 

Excerpt:

 

Says Foster: "Here's what I respect about him: Justin was never like, 'Hey, man, you're going to go to hell.' He was like, 'This is what I believe is the right way, and I'll pray for you.' I never feel arrogance or judgement. He never acted like he had something I don't have. He said, 'I would love for you to experience this,' which is more divine than anything I've ever come across."

 

If 1) Christians did a better job using the above (Forsett's) reason for trying to spread their beliefs and 2) Secularists did a better job being open minded and 'living a let live' to Christians (like Foster) than we would live in a much more peaceful America. Those two are just a start.

Jim Schue, is this what you meant about being preachy? :lol2:

 

Tebow does not bother me one bit because it is just him. That's who he is.

 

Foster is being who he is. Neither one bothers me. I think we all need thicker skin.

Foster has begun working with a nonprofit group called Openly Secular to spread his lack of belief, and in a lengthy interview with ESPN Magazine, Foster questions why religion and football seem so intertwined in the minds of so many players.

 

“If there is a God and he’s watching football, there are so many other things he could be doing,” Foster said. “There are hungry children and diseases and famine and so much important stuff going on in the world, and he’s really blessed your team? It’s just weird to me.”

...

 

“I get the devil-worship thing a lot. They’ll ask me, ‘You worship the devil?'” Foster said. “‘No, bro, I don’t believe there’s a God, why would I believe there’s a devil?’ There’s a lot of ignorance about non-belief. I don’t mean a negative connotation of ignorance. I just mean a lack of understanding, a lack of knowledge, lack of exposure to people like me.”

...

Foster said he respects the beliefs of others and hopes others extend him the same courtesy.

 

“I have no ill will toward religion or religious people. I have no quarrels,” Foster said. “Believe what you 
want to believe.”

 

Arian Foster opens up about not believing in God | ProFootballTalk

 

Foster is right about there being ignorance concerning atheism or non-belief. But he also displays some ignorance of his own regarding theism and particularly Christianity. Since God is infinite and His attributes are infinite (wisdom, power, etc.) He has no trouble multi-tasking. Paying attention to one thing in North America doesn't mean He'll miss something really important occurring in Asia. Rather, what Foster should criticize about his fellow athletes who are religious, is why these ignorant Christian's think God favors one team over another. This I think is rare, any way. Most of the jocks who make a religious statement in an interview are just saying they are grateful for the opportunities that have been afforded them to be in the position in life they are. They usually also mention a parent for helping them get where they are. They are just acknowledging that things like health and well-being are gifts from God. Why would anyone be against or offended by that? That actually is an expression of humility--I didn't get here on my own.

 

I rarely hear someone say something like, "God made my team win and that means I'm his favorite." That offends me because they misrepresent God as revealed in the Bible.

 

I think Foster and his teammate Forsett are role models for how those with differing opinions should interact. I respect that.