July 23, 201511 yr I know the deadline is just over a week from now but I wanted to start it off with this. Here is what looks like the first trade about to happen: @ronkroichick: Kazmir now hugging teammates goodbye. #Athletics will have new starter for today's game vs Blue Jays
July 23, 201511 yr Crap. The Reds are going to screw this up royally. Takes the Astros out of the running for Cueto and Leake.
July 23, 201511 yr Crap. The Reds are going to screw this up royally. Takes the Astros out of the running for Cueto and Leake. Why do you think this? I thought they did pretty well with the trades this past winter.
July 23, 201511 yr Why do you think this? I thought they did pretty well with the trades this past winter. There's a very limited number of teams looking for SP help. This takes the team with the best system off the table. It also sets the price for any other trades for rentals. Cueto will be worth more than Kazmir, but not by a whole lot. Potential return just went down IMO. And I agree, they did well on the trades this past offseason. The problem is they were guys that should've been moved at last year's deadline. Return was great this offseason, but would've been even better had they acted when they should have.
July 23, 201511 yr Houston gave up their 19th and 22nd rated prospect for Kazmir. If that's the best they can get for Cueto, sign me up for the draft pick
July 23, 201511 yr Hopefully this is accurate.... Jim Bowden @JimBowden_ESPN · 30s31 seconds ago Royals&Blue Jays are all “in” on Cueto willing to move top prospect for rental, realizing value much higher than Kazmir..both need Game 1 P
July 23, 201511 yr If the Royals are really willing to move top prospects, the Reds need to shoot for Mondesi and if that doesn't work, Zimmer and Starling IMO. From the Jays I'd go for any one of the trio of Norris (highly unlikely IMO), Pompey, or Hoffman. Hoffman and DJ Davis would be a huge haul that could be realistic IMO.
July 23, 201511 yr Author The A's got prospects Jacob Nottingham and Daniel Mangden. Both good prospects but not elite
July 23, 201511 yr Hopefully this is accurate.... Jim Bowden @JimBowden_ESPN · 30s31 seconds ago Royals&Blue Jays are all “in” on Cueto willing to move top prospect for rental, realizing value much higher than Kazmir..both need Game 1 P When 2 teams are all in that's huge. Get them to bid against each other and the return will be better.
July 23, 201511 yr And here it is: @ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Astros get Kazmir. Kazmir's ERA on the road is 3.92 which more than twice his home ERA. Going from a pitcher park to a batter park.
July 23, 201511 yr The Catcher in the deal Nottingham has been on the rise all season. He has cracked several top 75 lists and is more like a B to B+ level prospect than a C level prospect. With this taken into consideration the haul for the A's looks a lot better. Nottingham has huge raw abilities and power. Nottingham this year has a slash line of .326/.383/.558/.941 and 14 homers split between A and A+ ball at age 20. Baseball America has him as the Astros #9 prospect in their midseason update. Minorleagueball.com has Nottingham as the#71 prospect in baseball at the midseason point just ahead of the Reds Amir Garrett at #72 . They seem to think he could move up even more before season end and had this to say: Crushing A-ball pitching at age 20, stock moving up but I want more information before going higher than this. If final reports back up the numbers, will rank much higher in three months. I think it's obvious that Nottingham was the main piece in this deal for the A's and one that could be a top 50 prospect before seasons end. I'd say the Reds can get a top 50 midseason prospect based on Kazmir netting a top 75 prospect. I'd be happy with that haul as a reds fan for Cueto especially if they can get another prospect ranked within the trading teams organizational top 20 prospects. FWIW some other guys ranked by minorleagueball inside the 40-60 range on their midseason update which is what I think the Reds get for Cueto are #45 Dalton Pompey of the Jays, #52 Brandon Nimmo of the Mets, #55 Mark Appel of the Astros, #56 AJ Reed of the Astros, #59 Michael Feliz of the Astros, #66 Tyler Beede of the Giants, #67 Josh Hader of the Astros, #68 Sean Meanea of the Royals, #69 Gavin Cecchini of the Mets, #74 Derek Fisher of the Astros and #75 Alex Meyer of the Twins. The Astros farm system is stacked and I could still see them going all in and acquiring Cueto as well. It's been years since they've been in this position and they still have two rookies in their rotation and Cueto would make their chances even greater obviously. They held onto their top prospects in the Kazmir deal and it wouldn't kill them to part with one of the guys mentioned above. They also have #29 Brett Phillips that they could part with. I'd love to acquire AJ Reed, Derek Fisher or Brett Phillips from the Astros although I don't think they would give Phillips up.
July 23, 201511 yr I agree that the Astros could still be interested in Cueto. They were looking for a top of the arm rotation. Kazmir is a solid addition but he isn't going to carry you into the playoffs.
July 23, 201511 yr Agreed. I was very disappointed that the Reds didn't draft him last season when he was still available with their 2nd 1st Round pick. He is sky rocketing up the rankings and is one of the hottest names in baseball.
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