Apples to oranges. Care facilities have less chance of weapons and other threats than a police officer potentially faces every day on the street. That's not to say care facilities aren't a potentially dangerous place to work, it's just more controlled.

 

Do you think this woman is mentally challenged?

 

Agreed. Completely different situations. Although I'd be interested in seeing proof where an orderly or nurse defended themselves after being attacked and got arrested.

Apples to oranges. Care facilities have less chance of weapons and other threats than a police officer potentially faces every day on the street. That's not to say care facilities aren't a potentially dangerous place to work, it's just more controlled.

 

Do you think this woman is mentally challenged?

 

No. She was handcuffed. She presented far less of a threat than a full grown, unhandcuffed, combative adult male resident that these guys encounter on a regular basis.

Agreed. Completely different situations. Although I'd be interested in seeing proof where an orderly or nurse defended themselves after being attacked and got arrested.

 

There have been several arrests at a facility locally over the years that have made the news for retaliating like that. They are taught to deal with the residents without punching them in the face when they are restrained. If they do it then it is considered assault, when a police officer does it they are following procedure.

Right back at you.

 

I love the way you ignored the rest of the post.

 

Yeah, those pesky facts get in the way don't they?

I love the way you ignored the rest of the post.

 

Yeah, those pesky facts get in the way don't they?

 

You presented nothing if any substance to respond to. I've been kicked/punched by a belligerent person that we were trying to corral before. At no point did I think it appropriate to wait until they were restrained to punch them in the face at all let alone hard enough to break their eye orbital.

 

Since you could care less what I think I felt no need to respond to your opinion but there you go.

 

You presented nothing if any substance to respond to. I've been kicked/punched by a belligerent person that we were trying to corral before. At no point did I think it appropriate to wait until they were restrained to punch them in the face at all let alone hard enough to break their eye orbital.

 

Since you could care less what I think I felt no need to respond to your opinion but there you go.

 

You twist what happened to make it sound worse.

 

He didn't wait until she was restrained to hit her. SHE kicked him while she was restrained and he responded.

I look at it this way. The words, "you're under arrest" was the first warning to comply. She was still being unruly and on the edge of resisting. Handcuffs were her second warning to comply. She was still being unruly and actually resisting arrest once she kicked the officer. She seemed to understand the totality of her situation after the third warning. It's a shame it had to come to that but that's the path she chose.

You presented nothing if any substance to respond to. I've been kicked/punched by a belligerent person that we were trying to corral before. At no point did I think it appropriate to wait until they were restrained to punch them in the face at all let alone hard enough to break their eye orbital.

 

Since you could care less what I think I felt no need to respond to your opinion but there you go.

 

Nothing of substance? Pointing out the fact that you or I weren't there and not in that situation is nothing?

 

Gotcha. As you pointed out earlier to JD, your experience has nothing at all to do with the situation we are discussing.

Nothing of substance? Pointing out the fact that you or I weren't there and not in that situation is nothing?

 

Gotcha. As you pointed out earlier to JD, your experience has nothing at all to do with the situation we are discussing.

 

Interesting then that the Washington State Police did not agree with the officer's actions when they were asked to investigate the incident. I guess they don't have any experience in these matters either, huh?

 

They found that he inflicted unnecessary injury. The city attorney asked for felony charges to be made against the officer as well but he was not allowed to file felony charges. That was up to the county attorney who went against the WSP findings and the city attorney and did not for charges. The woman has filed a $1 million lawsuit and will likely take home a bunch of money.

 

Here's the link: State Patrol: Seattle PD officer caused ?unnecessary injury? during arrest - Seattle 911 ? A Police and Crime Blog

The exact quote by the WSP investigator:

 

After reviewing the information, Robert Bragg Jr. released the following evaluation:

 

"Officer Shepherd's demeanor and handling of the situation immediately up to the assault by Ms. Miyekko Durden-Bosley were calm and respectful and appeared to follow the LEED model set forth in SPD dictum. However, following the assault he acted in a way inconsistent with training and policy by not using the time and resources available to him. As a result he unnecessarily placed himself in greater danger and caused unnecessary and foreseeable injury to the handcuffed suspect."

 

Just exactly what I said. He had the time to evaluate the situation and he decided to inflict his own punishment on the suspect. It was unnecessary and wrong. Also, he has not been cleared by his own internal affairs department. Their investigation is on hold while he is being investigated for federal civil rights violations. He could still face federal charges or be dismissed from the police force.

So, does anyone have the stones to say "it was right" or "it was wrong" besides AJG? Or are we all going to play the "we weren't there/we aren't him" card?

 

Interesting then that the Washington State Police did not agree with the officer's actions when they were asked to investigate the incident. I guess they don't have any experience in these matters either, huh?

 

They found that he inflicted unnecessary injury. The city attorney asked for felony charges to be made against the officer as well but he was not allowed to file felony charges. That was up to the county attorney who went against the WSP findings and the city attorney and did not for charges. The woman has filed a $1 million lawsuit and will likely take home a bunch of money.

 

Here's the link: State Patrol: Seattle PD officer caused ?unnecessary injury? during arrest - Seattle 911 ? A Police and Crime Blog

 

She doesn't deserve a penny based on what I've seen.

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Why don't you start since you are the one calling everyone out

So, does anyone have the stones to say "it was right" or "it was wrong" besides AJG? Or are we all going to play the "we weren't there/we aren't him" card?

 

Mcpapa, you've been around for 100 years on this site. You should realize that Certain folks are going to side with the cop, the other half with the gal. No matter what the circumstances are.

I'll say it, she resisted arrest, she kicked him or at him, he gave her one solid punch. I have no issues with his "reaction". I have issues with what she did. Listen and obey the cops and you won't get your butt kicked, shot, strangled, beat or tazed.

She doesn't deserve a penny based on what I've seen.

 

 

If the plaintiff's attorney presents this quote from the state police investigator it will be pretty hard for the defendant's attorney to win the case:

 

"Officer Shepherd's demeanor and handling of the situation immediately up to the assault by Ms. Miyekko Durden-Bosley were calm and respectful and appeared to follow the LEED model set forth in SPD dictum. However, following the assault he acted in a way inconsistent with training and policy by not using the time and resources available to him. As a result he unnecessarily placed himself in greater danger and caused unnecessary and foreseeable injury to the handcuffed suspect."

 

 

The fact that it comes from other cops speaks volumes. If they're smart they'll settle this before it sees the inside of a courtroom.