May 24, 201511 yr Stop sticks were requested during the pursuit. Dispatcher said none were available as they broke "about three years ago."
May 24, 201511 yr The report said that due to errors by the officers regarding crossfire situations it was a "miracle" that no officers were killed. Officer Brelo said one reason he jumped on the hood was to avoid crossfire.
May 24, 201511 yr Stop sticks were requested during the pursuit. Dispatcher said none were available as they broke "about three years ago." Stop sticks are probably one of the best inventions created to help minimize collateral damage that a car chase can entail. Can't tell you how many pursuits were ended because of stop sticks that I have witnessed either via on the road or my time working the other end in the radio.
May 25, 201511 yr So if a car is fleeing is that "using the car as a weapon?" That's my question. I get that once you ram the officers in the school lot you're going to draw fire. I'm asking if they followed procedure by shooting at a fleeing vehicle that was not ramming other cars. If the police have probable cause that someone who is fleeing poses a threat to the public or other officers they can use deadly force. Not saying that was the case here... I think it's Tennessee v garner
May 25, 201511 yr My recent posts are coming while reading the linked report. No gun was ever found. Surveillance video from the route was checked and there was no indication a gun was tossed. Residue tests showed that the two victims did have residue but that could have been from firing OR could be from having so many shots going off at them in the car. Did surveillance video follow the entire pursuit?
May 25, 201511 yr If the police have probable cause that someone who is fleeing poses a threat to the public or other officers they can use deadly force. Not saying that was the case here... I think it's Tennessee v garner I get that in theory. I'm curious as to what "threat to the public" looks like.
May 25, 201511 yr Did surveillance video follow the entire pursuit? Probably not able to capture it all. The linked report details their search. Nothing found.
May 25, 201511 yr I get that in theory. I'm curious as to what "threat to the public" looks like. I'd say it's not hard to think of several things that could be considered a threat to the public.
May 25, 201511 yr Not true. Springfield XD 9mm can hold as many as 19 rounds in the magazine. A Glock 17 holds 17 rounds in the magazine. I want to clarify, what I meant was he reloaded most likely 2 times, 3 clips totals. That at said I didn't realize the dx held that many. I figured Glock made one close but not that many. The odds he was carrying one of those two is slim.
May 28, 201511 yr Cleveland PD, due to a long history of incidents, now has new policies put in place in conjunction with the DOJ. One of them involves firing shots at fleeing cars. Cleveland, DOJ announce changes in police force - CNNPolitics.com
May 28, 201511 yr Firing shots at fleeing cars I can see as a pretty big issue. The risk of a stray bullet hitting a citizen is really not worth the risk at all.
July 3, 201511 yr The five supervisors on duty have been charged with a dereliction of duty misdemeanor for not stopping the chase.
January 27, 201610 yr Brelo and 5 other officers have been fired. Union will appeal. 6 Cleveland cops fired over 2012 chase, 137-shot barrage - CBS News
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