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Couple try to adopt, they are denied because....

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That's not the same though. Guns in the hands of an irresponsible kid isn't nearly the same thing as skin color or sexual orientation. Not even close.

 

Discrimination is discrimination. You can try to justify it all you want. It is what it is, discrimination. At one time there are those that said desegregation was fear mongering.

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They are telling them they can't carry a loaded gun or store a loaded gun in their own home. That is ridiculous.

 

No they aren't. They are telling them they will not allow them to adopt a child if they have loaded guns in the house. Make a choice. Really simple.

Discrimination is discrimination. You can try to justify it all you want. It is what it is, discrimination. At one time there are those that said desegregation was fear mongering.

 

I guess you and I have a different interpretation of discrimination. I make the choice to carry/have a gun, I didn't choose to be black...

No they aren't. They are telling them they will not allow them to adopt a child if they have loaded guns in the house. Make a choice. Really simple.

 

I agree. It seems simple to me.

 

These people have the right to own their guns and to conceal carry. They even can do those things and adopt. The law simply asks that they store their ammo and guns in different locations. Thus it falls to them. Do you want to have kids or do you want to have loaded guns in the house?

 

There are numerous times where certain activities call for restriction on people's ability to do something that they're well within their rights to do. Take flying for example. If a person with a conceal carry wants to fly, they know that for the time they're in the airport/air they have to "give up" or suspend that right. If they have an issue with it, they can drive to their destination. It's their choice. No different here IMO.

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I agree. It seems simple to me.

 

These people have the right to own their guns and to conceal carry. They even can do those things and adopt. The law simply asks that they store their ammo and guns in different locations. Thus it falls to them. Do you want to have kids or do you want to have loaded guns in the house?

 

There are numerous times where certain activities call for restriction on people's ability to do something that they're well within their rights to do. Take flying for example. If a person with a conceal carry wants to fly, they know that for the time they're in the airport/air they have to "give up" or suspend that right. If they have an issue with it, they can drive to their destination. It's their choice. No different here IMO.

 

Huge difference, public place vs. private home.

Huge difference, public place vs. private home.

 

I disagree.

 

They aren't telling them they can't own guns or conceal carry.

 

They're simply telling them they have to store the ammo and guns in separate locations. How is that discriminating against their right to bear arms?

Huge difference, public place vs. private home.

 

The point we are trying to make is that it's not discrimination if people choose not to follow the rules. If they want to adopt the kids, lock up the guns. It really is that simple.

Discrimination is discrimination. You can try to justify it all you want. It is what it is, discrimination. At one time there are those that said desegregation was fear mongering.

 

I can tell the government, okay, I'll lock my loaded guns up and ammo in separate container and when they leave or do random checks I'll leave them unlocked and out in the open all day long. I can't hide being black from them.

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And I think it's absurd to have a an unloaded gun. Home owner to intruder, hold on a second while I get my bullets. Absurd. Maybe we can get the intruder to call ahead so they can be ready.

 

I have no issue with practicing gun safety. I have no issue with mandating training and certification to have a concealed carry permit. How do off duty police store their weapons?

 

And for the record I'm not a gun owner but 100% support the right to get one if I want.

You know what, from now on when I go out to bars I want to drive home. I think the law is discriminating against me for wanting to do that. Just because I am legally drunk doesn't mean I can't make it to my house. Discrimination!!!!!!!!!

And I think it's absurd to have a an unloaded gun. Home owner to intruder, hold on a second while I get my bullets. Absurd. Maybe we can get the intruder to call ahead so they can be ready.

 

I have no issue with practicing gun safety. I have no issue with mandating training and certification to have a concealed carry permit. How do off duty police store their weapons?

 

And for the record I'm not a gun owner but 100% support the right to get one if I want.

Read the fine print, they can have a loaded gun in the house. The links say that they can have a loaded gun in the house. Just lock it up if you want to adopt a kid.
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The point we are trying to make is that it's not discrimination if people choose not to follow the rules. If they want to adopt the kids, lock up the guns. It really is that simple.

 

I see it differently. What if they imposed "rules" on a gay couples, mandating they sleep in separate rooms for instance. If they choose not to follow those rules are they being discriminated against? It's their choice after all.

Everyone needs to read that paragraph so we can advance the discussion with us all on the same page. They can have a loaded gun in the house as long as it is locked up. Why is that such a violation of their rights?

 

It's not, it just sounds good...

I see it differently. What if they imposed "rules" on a gay couples, mandating they sleep in separate rooms for instance. If they choose not to follow those rules are they being discriminated against? It's their choice after all.

 

Can a child kill his brother if Dad 1 and Dad 2 share the same bed?

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