3wishes Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 1.Boyle County 81-7 92% 2. Trinity 74-11 87.05% 3. Lexington Catholic 67-10 87.01% 4. St. X 70-11 86% 5. Danville 73-14 83.9% 6. Rockcastle County 68-14 82.9% 6. Male 68-14 82.9% 8. Newport Catholic 68-15 81.9% 9. Beechwood 67-15 81.7% 10.Bowling Green 60-15 80% 11.Louisville Holy Cross 59-15 79.7% 12.Russell 62-17 78.5% 13.Belfry 63-19 76.8% 14.Trigg County 56-17 76.7% 15.Mayfield 65-20 76.5% 16.Hopkinsville 62-20 75.6% 17.Bullitt East 55-18 75.34% 18.Glasgow 58-19 75.32% 18.Bardstown 58-19 75.32% 20.Bell County 55-19 74.3% I compiled the above list to include the top 20 winningest high school programs in the state of Kentucky since 2000. I feel that this breakdown illustrates just how many of the teams in Kentucky stay dominant over a long period of time, when you compare this to the other list that inlcudes the top 20 teams since 1990. This includes the past 6 years. Do you have any comments by looking at the teams mentioned in this ELITE list? Who surprises you or who are you disappointed with, maybe you thought some team would be higher, lower, etc? I have also included a breakdown by class that these teams represent. There are teams in this list, however, that has switched classification more than once but I am including their recent classification. 1A: 6 teams 2A: 4 teams 3A: 7 teams 4A: 3 teams I have also included a breakdown of geographic location per school listed above. NKY: 2 teams EKY: 4 teams CKY: 2 teams WKY: 6 teams LEX: 1 teams LOU: 5 teams Do these numbers in any category show you anything or prove any point? Let us know what you think.
3wishes Posted April 4, 2006 Author Posted April 4, 2006 On another note, there are 14 teams on this list that were also on the 1990-present list. The 6 teams that moved in on this list are: Newport Catholic Louisville Holy Cross Trigg County Hopkinsville Bullitt East Glasgow The 6 teams that left this list after being one of the winningest teams in the 90's are: Lawrence County Highlands* Pikeville Breathitt County Owensboro Catholic Middlesboro *According to KHSAA records the 2004 season knocked Highlands out of the above list because of garnering only 2 wins. They would've in turn ironically knocked Bell County out of the top 20 since 2000 list had those wins counted.
Diogenes Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Wow, Bob Beatty is a heck of a coach. He is, indeed. And how about Mike Glaser? Virtually the same W-L record with no Brohm!
LSURock Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 He is, indeed. And how about Mike Glaser? Virtually the same W-L record with no Brohm! Sorry my friend the records don't match up where it counts. 4 titles to 1, including 2 over Mr. Glaser.
Xtiger69 Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Sorry my friend the records don't match up where it counts. 4 titles to 1, including 2 over Mr. Glaser. Glaser's record matches up quite well- 6 state titles to 4 and he has sustained excellence for 20 years. Do you think Beatty will make it 20 years or will he ever pass Glaser in total state titles? My guess is no,( based upon talent in current programs and the expected positive future benefits from X's new stadium) but only time will tell. Both great coaches no doubt!
50inarow Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Glaser's record matches up quite well- 6 state titles to 4 and he has sustained excellence for 20 years. Do you think Beatty will make it 20 years or will he ever pass Glaser in total state titles? My guess is no,( based upon talent in current programs and the expected positive future benefits from X's new stadium) but only time will tell. Both great coaches no doubt! If all it took was talent...
ram2003 Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Take away St. X and Trinitys losses to each other and what do you have with them? (I could probably figure it out, but I'm not willing to put forth the effort).
LSURock Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Glaser's record matches up quite well- 6 state titles to 4 and he has sustained excellence for 20 years. Do you think Beatty will make it 20 years or will he ever pass Glaser in total state titles? My guess is no,( based upon talent in current programs and the expected positive future benefits from X's new stadium) but only time will tell. Both great coaches no doubt! Not so fast my friend... No need to worry about if Bob will catch Mike over twenty years, heck at his present rate he will pass Glaser in ten. If you are saying that X has some talent advantage, I guess you skipped last year's title game. FYI, the title of this thread is concerning "since 2000". In that context Bob blows Glaser away big time. Beatty can't be held accountable for not winning a title in Kentucky when he wasn't even coaching in this state. Since Coach Beatty has arrived on the scene Trinity has been a solid number one and X has been a distant second. Facts are facts.:thumb:
Xtiger69 Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Not so fast my friend... No need to worry about if Bob will catch Mike over twenty years, heck at his present rate he will pass Glaser in ten. If you are saying that X has some talent advantage, I guess you skipped last year's title game. FYI, the title of this thread is concerning "since 2000". In that context Bob blows Glaser away big time. Beatty can't be held accountable for not winning a title in Kentucky when he wasn't even coaching in this state. Since Coach Beatty has arrived on the scene Trinity has been a solid number one and X has been a distant second. Facts are facts.:thumb: He still trails in total titles and will never catch him IMO.
RockPride Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 ^ He MAY not, but if he chooses to stay around long enough the odds are in his favor of doing so. He has proven to be of the UBER-elite as far as Kentucky is concerned, and beating X last season was just as impressive, if X would've beat us in 2003...... Here's where I would be concerned... X has been a picture of consistency in the last 20+ years under Glaser, while Trinity has been REALLY successful with 4-5 coaches in the last 20+ years.... Should X be concerned when Glaser steps down about staying at that level?
Xtiger69 Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 ^ He MAY not, but if he chooses to stay around long enough the odds are in his favor of doing so. He has proven to be of the UBER-elite as far as Kentucky is concerned, and beating X last season was just as impressive, if X would've beat us in 2003...... Here's where I would be concerned... X has been a picture of consistency in the last 20+ years under Glaser, while Trinity has been REALLY successful with 4-5 coaches in the last 20+ years.... Should X be concerned when Glaser steps down about staying at that level? I would be concerned if I was a rock. St.X has never had a football stadium in school history and yet year in and year out always a top program. Now the Tiger's will have the best stadium in the state and among best all around sports facilities in the country. Now you tell me what effect this is going to have on the football program no matter who is coaching.Do you think St.X will have a problem finding a new coach when Glaser retires in a few years?No worries here!
Diogenes Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 ^ He MAY not, but if he chooses to stay around long enough the odds are in his favor of doing so. He has proven to be of the UBER-elite as far as Kentucky is concerned, and beating X last season was just as impressive, if X would've beat us in 2003...... Here's where I would be concerned... X has been a picture of consistency in the last 20+ years under Glaser, while Trinity has been REALLY successful with 4-5 coaches in the last 20+ years.... Should X be concerned when Glaser steps down about staying at that level? Pull your claws in, T fans. (Pardon the pun ). No one is criticizing Coach Beatty. His record speaks for itself. Go back and reread the inception of this minor brouhaha. LSURock noted that Beatty must be a heck of a coach. I agreed. The thread is "Winningest teams in Kentucky since 2000". I merely noted, in keeping with the thread topic, that Glaser also must be a good coach-he has a similar W-L record. And, he accomplished his record without the services of the greatest player ever to play high school football in Kentucky. When others praise their school or another school, it is not a slur on T. As I have stated before, some of us should take a page from Copernicus. The universe does not revolve around our school. Since 2000, T has done Xcellently, and X has done quite well also. There is another thread running currently running showing that since 1990, X has done Xcellently, and T has done quite well also. As to Glaser's eventual retirement, I believe X will have to face it in about 11 years. When it occurs, X should carry on well, similar to T and their four coaching changes since about the mid 1990's.
Diogenes Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 BTW, how about Coach Smith at Boyle County? They are the winningest program, and Smith did it without the huge enrollment advantage X and T have over their opponents. Maybe Glaser, Beatty and the rest are scrapping for second best (or third if Yeagle is included).Should the "winningest record since...” be weighted against X and T because of their huge enrollment advantage? Does this diminish their accomplishments? After all, the others achieved their records against similarly situated schools.
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