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Mason County 78 Ashland 37

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For a team that has the preseason number one player in the region and with Villers averaging almost 20 per game there is enough talent on that roster to have won at least 2 games by now. I just don't think the talent fits Biggs's system.

2 vs 0, wow let's string him up. You don't just all of a sudden forget how to coach.

I'm not blaming Biggs a bit. But I do think this team has more talent than some are leading on.

 

If you think you could win with that bunch, go ahead and give it a try. If Ashland lays this blame on Coach Biggs, they have made a big mistake. Biggs is a very good Coach. Rupp could not win with that talent level.

 

There is more to it than that, there is plenty of talent available.

jD. You have spent a lot of your post degrading Buddy Biggs. Do you even know him, have you ever met him. You say there are kids he has "run off".

When kids don't play because a coach is to tough it says a lot more about the kid than it does the coach.

 

I don't "know" him, but yes, I have met him. He's a great guy. This "kids don't want to work hard" stuff has been ran into the ground. You may as well beat a dead horse. The truth is that other schools across the state aren't struggling because the kids don't want to work hard, neither is Ashland at any other Varsity sport. So why is that only a problem under Bigg's?

 

Also, there are plenty of kids that have played multiple sports at Ashland, but walk away once its time for BuddyBall, some of which have played for him in the past, some of which left because their hair was too long for Buddy's liking.

 

Once your assistants start leaving and you can't get kids to play for you, you have to recognise that there is a problem.

I don't "know" him, but yes, I have met him. He's a great guy. This "kids don't want to work hard" stuff has been ran into the ground. You may as well beat a dead horse. The truth is that other schools across the state aren't struggling because the kids don't want to work hard, neither is Ashland at any other Varsity sport. So why is that only a problem under Bigg's?

 

Also, there are plenty of kids that have played multiple sports at Ashland, but walk away once its time for BuddyBall, some of which have played for him in the past, some of which left because their hair was too long for Buddy's liking.

 

Once your assistants start leaving and you can't get kids to play for you, you have to recognise that there is a problem.

 

This "walking the hallway" thing is the dead horse, almost every school can say the same thing. Hard work in basketball is completely different than almost every other sport. Let's just agree that you have a problem with Biggs and his no nonsense coaching style. How about talking to the guys who played for him when he had hard working disciplined kids. How about talking to assistants who coached with him then too.

Tell me how many of these kids who "work hard" at other sports have had the success you expect from Biggs. Calling out coaches on a public forum is weak, really, really weak.:watching:

 

This "walking the hallway" thing is the dead horse, almost every school can say the same thing. Hard work in basketball is completely different than almost every other sport. Let's just agree that you have a problem with Biggs and his no nonsense coaching style. How about talking to the guys who played for him when he had hard working disciplined kids. How about talking to assistants who coached with him then too.

Tell me how many of these kids who "work hard" at other sports have had the success you expect from Biggs. Calling out coaches on a public forum is weak, really, really weak.:watching:

 

 

Honestly I don't have a problem with Biggs, I think he's a great guy, that doesn't always translate into a good coach though. It may be weak, in your opinion and I would normally not critisise a coach like I have him. But when the program is in the gutter because kids don't want to play for him and coaches don't want to coach with him, I feel like people should hear about it.

 

How is working hard in basketball different than almost every other sport? Do girls basketball players work hard? Ashland sure isn't struggling there. Do soccer players work hard? Again, Ashland isn't struggling there. Do football players work hard? What about baseball, track, swimming, etc? Do those players not work hard?

 

For you to say that basketball is different is a direct slap in the face to the players of the other sports. To me that is much worse than calling a coach out. The coach is a grown man and should be able to take it. Claiming that the kids of the of other sports don't have to work as hard is WEAK.

 

By the way, what does all this hard work Buddy instills translate to? Other than kids and coaches not wanting to be a part of the program, and 0 wins?

Naw, The Royals send them packing!

 

As Lee Corso would say on College Game Day "Not so fast my friend" Lex. Cath. won 53-49.

jD the only concrete think you can prove is that Ashland has zero wins. Unless of course you are one of the assistant coaches no longer on Biggs staff.

How many girls want to play on the boys team? Way to go in trying to turn this on me. Working hard in each sport is different, soccer and swimming ,I'll give you. It is all relevant to the sport. I like Ashland, I like Biggs and I really don't like anyone calling out any coach when they don't have all the information. Every thread about Ashland turns into you ragging on Biggs, kind of ruins it for the real fans. Take your issues to the administration.

jD the only concrete think you can prove is that Ashland has zero wins. Unless of course you are one of the assistant coaches no longer on Biggs staff.

How many girls want to play on the boys team? Way to go in trying to turn this on me. Working hard in each sport is different, soccer and swimming ,I'll give you. It is all relevant to the sport. I like Ashland, I like Biggs and I really don't like anyone calling out any coach when they don't have all the information. Every thread about Ashland turns into you ragging on Biggs, kind of ruins it for the real fans. Take your issues to the administration.

 

 

Now your not making any sense...

 

Why would the girls want to play on the boys team? They have two different teams for a reason. However the girls bball team is still successful. I guess thats because they dont have to work as hard as the boys team, so they still want to play for their coach? Hence there being plenty of talent available.

 

I have more information than you may imagine. A relative of mine, played under Biggs, for a short period of time. He played three sports at Ashland and is a D1 athlete at this period in time.

 

You keep saying all sports are different, since I mentioned that Ashland isn't struggling in any other sport. Could you please explain how they are different? Why, in your mind, do boys basketball players have to work harder than everyone else to succeed?

Thanks for the pm Mark, appreciate it, what you said was all class.

 

I'm new to the pm stuff, its been rare that I have used it. To the long timers, any way I can block "Mark" from messaging me? I have a feeling its going to become an issue.

The wringing of hands is comical to be honest.

As Lee Corso would say on College Game Day "Not so fast my friend" Lex. Cath. won 53-49.

 

True

I missed that one completely. I really thought that the Royals would have their way with a LexCath team that appears to me to be a bit down this year.

 

Wrongo!

For a team that has the preseason number one player in the region and with Villers averaging almost 20 per game there is enough talent on that roster to have won at least 2 games by now. I just don't think the talent fits Biggs's system.

 

The preseason number one player in the region broke his foot 6 weeks ago so you can't include him in your argument. If he were healthy Ashland would have struggled but they would have won more than 1 game.

 

I think you have way too high an opinion of the current talent level at Ashland.

 

As for the criticism of Biggs, it goes with the territory when you are 1-18. Some of it is justified, most of it isn't. Many forget that he also had a top 10 regional player move to Cleveland over the summer. Couple that with an injury to his best player and you get 1-18. I'm sure there are kids who are not playing that could help but that was the case in 70's, 80's, and the 90's. Furthermore, I can only think of 1 kid who isn't playing that has played since they went to Blazer. So how would they know if they would like playing for the coach or not?

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