When you know you're going to get your head beat in in round one or you're going to show up with 14 players it become an exercise of futility.

That's why I argue my point so much, the adults say "Let the kids play", the truth is, the kids, and coaches, don't want to play if they are struggling that badly.

Look at who voted for three team format, not many perennial powers:

 

TOTAL 39 - THREE - THE FOLLOWING SCHOOLS INDICATED A PREFERENCE OF THREE TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFFSWITH THE WINNER OF THE DISTRICT HAVING A BYE.

 

 

 

Allen Central (Larry Joe Begley, Principal)Barren County (Steve Riley, Principal)

Betsy Layne (Ricky Thacker, Athletic Director)Bryan Station (Chad Luhman, Athletic Director)Butler (Mike Crawley, Athletic Director)

Central (Marlon Miller, Athletic Director)

Christian Academy-Louisville (Darin Long, Athletic

Director)

Collins (John Leeper, Principal)

Corbin (Thom Smith, Athletic Director)

Doss (Kevin Salyer, Athletic Director)

East Carter (Troy Criswell, Athletic Director)

Fairview (GARRY MCPEEK, Principal)

Frankfort (Craig Foley, Athletic Director)

Greenwood (Greg Dunn, Principal)

Henry County (Todd Gilley, Athletic Director)

Holy Cross (Covington) (Mike Holtz, Principal)

Holy Cross (Louisville) (jody thornsberry, Athletic Director)Hopkins County Central (Nancy Oldham, Athletic Director)Iroquois (Mike Beard, Athletic Director)

 

Knox Central (Tommy smit, Athletic Director)

Logan County (Hugh McReynolds, Athletic Director)Ludlow (Jodi Schmidt, Athletic Director)

Lynn Camp (danny green, Athletic Director)

Madison Central (Phillip Todd Wilson, Athletic Director)Madison Southern (Calvin Creech, Athletic Director)Montgomery County (Gene Heffington, Athletic Director)Morgan County (Ralph Hamilton, Athletic Director)North Oldham (billy Martin, Athletic Director)

Oldham County (Kevin Combs, Athletic Director)Owensboro Catholic (Gates Settle, Principal)

Pendleton County (Keith Smith, Athletic Director)

Perry County Central (Randy Napier, Athletic Director)Phelps (Mike Hamilton, Principal)

Pineville (Brenda Gambrel, Athletic Director)

Shawnee (Dwight Bransford, Athletic Director)

Shelby Valley (Greg Napier, Principal)

South Laurel (keith gilbert, Athletic Director)

Warren East (Jonathan Vincent, Athletic Director)Williamsburg (Gary Peters, Principal)

Who voted for two team format:

 

TOTAL 53 - TWO - THE FOLLOWING SCHOOLS INDICATED A PREFERENCE OF TWO TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFFS.

 

 

 

Allen County-Scottsville (Kerry Harwood, Athletic Director)Ashland Blazer (Derek Runyon, Principal)

Ballard (Chris Kinney, Athletic Director)

Beechwood (Ben A. Zimmerman Jr., Principal)

Bell County (RIchard Gambrel, Principal)

Bowling Green (Gary Fields, Principal)

Breathitt County (Derek McKnight, Principal)

Breckinridge County (Walt Hildenbrandt, Athletic Director)Campbellsville (Tim Davis, Athletic Director)

Casey County (Victor Black, Athletic Director)Christian County (Steve Lovelace, Athletic Director)Clinton County (Mike Beard, Athletic Director)Covington Catholic (Mike Guidugli, Athletic Director)Daviess County (Jeff Hurley, Athletic Director)Dayton (scott meyers, Athletic Director)

East Ridge (Randy D. McCoy, Athletic Director)Elizabethtown (Doug Barnes, Athletic Director)

Estill County (Arthur Ballard, Athletic Director)Fairdale (Ernest Smith, Athletic Director)

Fern Creek (Troy Johnson, Athletic Director)

Fulton City (Donna Garland, Principal)

Fulton County (Steven Spadafino, Athletic Director)Gallatin County (Jon jones, Athletic Director)Graves County (Doug Gloyd, Athletic Director)Harlan County (Fred Mccreary, Athletic Director)Hart County (Jerry Taylor, Athletic Director)

Holmes (stan steidel, Athletic Director)

 

Jeffersontown (Gary Weiter, Athletic Director)Lawrence County (Travis Feltner, Athletic Director)Marshall County (Jeff Stokes, Athletic Director)

Mason County (Steve Appelman, Principal)

Mayfield (Joe Morris, Athletic Director)

McCreary Central (Robert Jones, Athletic Director)Newport Central Catholic (Rob Detzel, Athletic Director)Nicholas County (Robert Hopkins, Athletic Director)Owen County (T.J. Wesselman, Athletic Director)Owensboro (Chris Gaddis, Athletic Director)

Paintsville (Charles McClure, Principal)

Paris (Cary Barr, Athletic Director)

Pikeville (Michael Rowe, Principal)

Pleasure Ridge Park (Craig Webb, Athletic Director)Raceland (Bill Farley, Athletic Director)

Russell (Sam Sparks, Athletic Director)

Russell County (Keith Ellis, Principal)

Somerset (Robert Tucker, Athletic Director)

Southern (David A. Burns, Athletic Director)

Tates Creek (Joe Ruddell, Athletic Director)

Trinity (Louisville) (Rob Mullen, Principal)Walton-Verona (Kyle Bennett, Athletic Director)Webster County (Matt Bell, Athletic Director)

West Carter (Brian Brown, Athletic Director)

Western Hills (Craig Fry, Athletic Director)

Whitley County (Mike Campbell, Athletic Director)

The announcers of the game said if OSU wins this game no one from the Big Ten will make the playoffs.

 

I didn't realize the announcers of that game were the playoff selection committee. With all due respect they have no idea who is going to make the playoff. Oregon is struggling with Utah right now and anything can still happen in the SEC west.

In Class 1A, the majority voted for a two team format. All other classes saw the majority voting for a four team format.

http://portal.ksba.org/public/Meeting/Attachments/DisplayAttachment.aspx?AttachmentID=117672

 

Also found this one: http://khsaa.org/football/footballsurvey2013bydistrictandbyschool.pdf

I've been looking for those for two days. Thanks for posting them.

 

Do you have last vote for classes?

I've been looking for those for two days. Thanks for posting them.

 

Do you have last vote for classes?

 

Unfortunately can't seem to find that.

The announcers of the game said if OSU wins this game no one from the Big Ten will make the playoffs.

 

They could be right but there are still a lot of games (and upsets) left. I think OSU is in the discussion now...probably in the top 10 when the Committee announces Tuesday. The OSU offense is very impressive right now. Putting up 49 and 560+ yards at MSU had to get some people's attention. It sure would have helped OSU (and others) if Bama would have lost though...enough about that though since it is not the thread subject. It will discussed in the college football forum.

I'd say that just because you vote for one format doesn't necessarily mean that you are against another format.

Actually, the last vote had three options, and if I remember correctly, the majority was split between the two options not in place currently allowing the third option (the current format) to win. So, the majority were against it.

 

I stand corrected. #Ihateyou

 

:lol2: :lol2:

 

Again, if I remember correctly, four classes advancing to the playoffs won, three teams advancing come in second with a good number and third was two teams advancing.

 

And, surprisingly, the perennial powers were the most dominate programs to vote for the four team format, while the teams that struggle voted for three and two teams.

 

Looks like total:

2 teams advancing: 30.30%

3 teams advancing: 19.89%

4 teams advancing: 49.81%

 

Thanks for posting those stats even though they refute your first post. It was almost dead even between 4 teams and the other two options. I bet if the choices were only 2 teams or 4 teams, 4 teams wins in a landslide. All those 3 teams votes are going to 4 teams.

 

The vast majority do not want just two teams advancing.

Thanks for posting those stats even though they refute your first post. It was almost dead even between 4 teams and the other two options. I bet if the choices were only 2 teams or 4 teams, 4 teams wins in a landslide. All those 3 teams votes are going to 4 teams.

 

The vast majority do not want just two teams advancing.

I'm not so sure that a conclussion can be drawn in which direction those people would vote, they may be dead set against the two team format, but they just as likely could be dead set against the four team format.

 

But, looking at the voting does show the answer is not clear cut.

Lest everyone forgets: the only reason we have six classes is to hush the old 4A public schools who were screaming about the Public/Private Debate. That is it, it's not so more kids can experience the playoffs, it's not to level the playing field, it's not for money. It is, and always has been, to stop the old 4A schools for pushing for a separation of public and private, that's all, nothing else, nothing more.

Lest everyone forgets: the only reason we have six classes is to hush the old 4A public schools who were screaming about the Public/Private Debate. That is it, it's not so more kids can experience the playoffs, it's not to level the playing field, it's not for money. It is, and always has been, to stop the old 4A schools for pushing for a separation of public and private, that all, nothing else, nothing more.

 

These are the same folks who whined and moaned and begged the KHSAA to bust up the three tier system.

AAA champion was automatically a school from Jefferson county. That is not fair.

 

To appease the masses, the KHSAA adopted the state at large champion versus the Jefferson county champion for a winner take all. That was not fair and balanced enough. Hey, maybe split Jefferson county into districts competing on both sides of the state playoffs. Oops. Too many all Jefferson county finals. Well Lexington and northern KY schools do not like having to play Jefferson county schools unless they meet in Bowling Green. That's where we are heading right now. Will that last more than four years? :android:

So people can be happy after all 6 class state champions have been crowned. We can find a dome and there can be a 6 team playoff for overall State Champ.

Who complained in the old four class system other then 4A schools not named Trinity and St. X?

 

I didn't! Loved it! Earned your way in! Heck I think at one point we had 8 teams in our district with only the 4 classes and (i think) only two moved on (maybe it was 4 they too). The regular season games were awesome. Just about every week was a district game that you couldn't afford to stumble on. You had to play hard every game and you really on had 1-3 non-district games a year. Every team knew what they were up against and you had to take care of business on the field every Friday night or you risked the chance of not making the playoffs. And guess what...if you didn't take care of business, you only had you and your teammates to blame as you sat at home on the first Friday of the playoffs. Hopefully you were a bball player and could ease the disappointment of losing by making you first bball practice on Saturday morning. But if not, I can tell you the weight room was full the first Monday after we were knocked out.