October 16, 201411 yr I really don't expect any of the Bush bashers to acknowledge this report. Takes away one of their favorite attacks. How so? He went after Iraq because of 9/11. No plans to go to Iraq and kill Saddam until then. We bombed Iraq and declared Mission Accomplished. As still didn't get the guy who orchestrated 9/11. Obama cleaned up that mess. Bush is the worst president ever. Nothing changes for this Bush basher.
October 16, 201411 yr How so? He went after Iraq because of 9/11. No plans to go to Iraq and kill Saddam until then. We bombed Iraq and declared Mission Accomplished. As still didn't get the guy who orchestrated 9/11. Obama cleaned up that mess. Bush is the worst president ever. Nothing changes for this Bush basher. I rest my case.
October 16, 201411 yr I rest my case.I could have predicted that post word for word. Saddam could have captured smoking a Cuban, sitting with Fidel, playing hold em on top of a WMD, sitting next to a plan book for 9/11, while using blue prints of the WTC as napkin and some still would have crushed Bush for being there. Bush was a bad president, Obama is a train wreck. Anyone who stayed otherwise is blinded by other factors.
October 16, 201411 yr I could have predicted that post word for word. Saddam could have captured smoking a Cuban, sitting with Fidel, playing hold em on top of a WMD, sitting next to a plan book for 9/11, while using blue prints of the WTC as napkin and some still would have crushed Bush for being there. Bush was a bad president, Obama is a train wreck. Anyone who stayed otherwise is blinded by other factors. Nah, not in this country in this political system. Surely you jest.
October 16, 201411 yr Mother Jones? Yeah, their not partisan are they? Mom Jones very biased site...FWIW What makes Mother Jones any less credible than the Independent Journal Review?
October 16, 201411 yr Author What makes Mother Jones any less credible than the Independent Journal Review? They are both biased at opposite ends of the spectrum from each other.
October 16, 201411 yr Author NY Times is one of the most liberal newspapers in the country. But as soon as they release an investigative piece that doesn't go along with long held beliefs on the left, Mother Jones immediately comes out trying to discredit what the NYT article said by changing their own long held position.
October 16, 201411 yr NY Times is one of the most liberal newspapers in the country. But as soon as they release an investigative piece that doesn't go along with long held beliefs on the left, Mother Jones immediately comes out trying to discredit what the NYT article said by changing their own long held position. And the Independent Journal Review immediately comes out with "Bush validated". Your link is the Independent Journal Review and Clizzy's is Mother Jones. Seems like a fair fight to me but Clizzy's is discredited while the IJR is legit? Nah, that ain't working. :lol2:
October 16, 201411 yr Author And the Independent Journal Review immediately comes out with "Bush validated". Your link is the Independent Journal Review and Clizzy's is Mother Jones. Seems like a fair fight to me but Clizzy's is discredited while the IJR is legit? Nah, that ain't working. :lol2: Mine was just a link to New York Times report
October 16, 201411 yr NY Times is one of the most liberal newspapers in the country. But as soon as they release an investigative piece that doesn't go along with long held beliefs on the left' date=' Mother Jones immediately comes out trying to discredit what the NYT article said by changing their own long held position.[/quote'] Incorrect. Mother Jones had no issue with piece. Their response was to those who used it to say President Bush was right.
October 16, 201411 yr Mine was just a link to New York Times report Nah, that first link you posted goes to the Independent Journal Review website and its take on the NY Times article.
October 16, 201411 yr How so? He went after Iraq because of 9/11. No plans to go to Iraq and kill Saddam until then. We bombed Iraq and declared Mission Accomplished. As still didn't get the guy who orchestrated 9/11. Obama cleaned up that mess. Bush is the worst president ever. Nothing changes for this Bush basher. How did Obama clean up that mess? Doesn't ISIS now control Iraq thanks to a very publicly known withdrawal of all US forces. Leon Panetta criticizes Obama for Iraq withdrawal - CBS News I believe Bush entering Iraq was unnecessary for the war on terror, but I also believe Obama's withdrawal was careless.
October 16, 201411 yr How did Obama clean up that mess? Doesn't ISIS now control Iraq thanks to a very publicly known withdrawal of all US forces. Leon Panetta criticizes Obama for Iraq withdrawal - CBS News I believe Bush entering Iraq was unnecessary for the war on terror, but I also believe Obama's withdrawal was careless. I was only speaking on the removal of Osama bin Laden from this planet. I could be wrong but I was thinking that it was known that Iraq would be in limbo for decades after we invaded it and killed Saddam and tried to implement democracy. Still a long way to go on that. I'm really not sure how to fix it or if it ever will be fixed. I'm thinking the birth of ISIS is similar to the birth of the Taliban when the US left Afghanistan in the 80s thus creating Osama bin Laden. I could be wrong in this line of thinking though.
October 16, 201411 yr Author Nah, that first link you posted goes to the Independent Journal Review website and its take on the NY Times article. Yeah IJR was just the middle man, I just as easily could have posted the Direct NYT Link.
October 16, 201411 yr What makes Mother Jones any less credible than the Independent Journal Review? Never said it was. Same as Mother Jones. Biased.
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